Another example that the ADN is just a commie rag (Metlakatla: transporting, law)

[RayinAK]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

What business owner failed to provide those agencies with the information that he's legally required to provide?

I can't believe grown men are bawling over the thought of fertilizer plants in Texas being subjected to periodic inspections.

Even the place that employs you as a janitor is subject to inspections once in awhile, Ray.

A fertilizer plant is not a fish cannery, Met

[Metlakatla]

Just the type of stupid statement that I would expect from you. It has nothing to do with what you quoted, yet you've yelped ad nauseum in this thread about others going "off topic." Your poor wife must be working late again tonight, and here you are, true to form, deep into the wine.

[hogfamily]

Hey RayinAk........was meant as sarcasm.......guess I should have added this.....
....or this..........or this..........or this...........or this.........sorry....

Originally Posted by hogfamily

Yup.....Bush's fault......

[richelles]

Originally Posted by Moose Whisperer

Or, it's because I've spent my entire professional career working either directly for, or closely with the Federal Government and have seen first hand the sheer incompetence and financial waste existing at all it's levels.

There is a HUGE difference between a few efficient, common sense, well targeted regulations (which nobody opposes including me), and our current Federal Government which has morphed into a multi-headed, self-replicating Hydra that is strangling the spiritual, moral, ethical, constitutional, and free-market institutions of our once great nation. And if you can't see the difference you are either not paying attention, are willfully ignorant, or just plain blind.

I also spent a great deal of my career working with various government entities and I have seen a few examples of waste but never enough to consider it "at all it's levels". But the regulations you are talking about in the case of the Texass Plant are in something called the Patriot Act which was passed and signed by someone you've praised previously on this forum. The problems with the Federal Government is money which is harvested by the congress people in vast quantities mostly from good old boys who make sure you have an "R" after your name. And their main purpose for existing isn't to follow the dictates of the Constitution but rather the donors of those large unregulated sums of money.

The Department of Homeland Security has responsibility for all forms of Ammonium Nitrate for a good reason and that is to monitor its use as fertilizer which has been diverted to other uses. But again ask yourself what expertise do they have? They also monitor the production, storage, sale, transportation or accounting for the amount an individual has in their possession. You can go into many stores across this country and buy a 100 pound sack of Urea and take it with you. A lot of the liquid form is used to breakup rock in quarries across this country. The requirements for reporting don't exist because anti regulators like yourself made sure they didn't have to report. We need better trained regulators and more of them who do what they are supposed to do.

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by hogfamily

Hey RayinAk........was meant as sarcasm.......guess I should have added this.....
....or this..........or this..........or this...........or this.........sorry....

Where did you get the cuteness?

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by RayinAK

Agree with you. The federal agencies that conduct such inspections fell asleep on this one.

That is not how it works. The feds give States the money to create programs that the States enforce at the State level. The feds only get involved if the offense is egregious enough to warrant their attention.

The States enact their own laws patterned after, and heavily influenced by, the federal agencies and federal law. The States then collect federal funding to maintain those State programs.

For example, the Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation, Division of Spill Prevention & Response, Industrial Preparedness Program, there is the Underground Storage Tank Section, which is almost entirely funded by the federal EPA. The UST Section reports to the EPA every quarter, however, inspections of underground storage tanks only occurs once every three years. Only when someone refuses to comply or pay their annual fees per tank, will the Alaska Department of Law get involved. If the EPA thinks it is a really bad violation, they may also get directly involved at the same time as the Department of Law.

The overwhelming vast majority of the time the issue is resolved at the State level. Federal agencies only get involved on rare occasions.

[hogfamily]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Where did you get the cuteness?

Me or the smiley things?

Me...from my parents....the smiley things.....from here:

http://boards.buffalobills.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies

[Metlakatla]

I was referring to the cuteness of the smilies.

It is, however, largely Junior's fault that business regulations in Texass aren't quite up to par.

The owner of that plant better have a lot of loot stashed offshore because the ensuing lawsuits are going to wipe him out.

[Metlakatla]

Thanks, I remember Buffalo Bill's now -- let's see if I can make this work:

[IMG]:sleep:[/IMG]

[Metlakatla]

Thanks, I remember Buffalo Bill's now, but how do you make them work in forum posts?