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Old 05-31-2016, 12:46 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Hell no!!
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Is it legal to go 64mph in a 65mph zone? You might have a accident after all! Should we have a 5mph buffer?
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Is it legal to go 64mph in a 65mph zone? You might have a accident after all! Should we have a 5mph buffer?
Uh... you might want to work on your analogies.

It's not legal to drive 65 mph through a school parking lot. It's also not legal to blow past the school at that speed - you have to kick it down to 30 mph (with an even lower 'if children are present' limit in some cases). Not on school property. Just nearby. See, it's not enough to just prohibit the act on the location, but also to prohibit it in the vicinity, in order to achieve the desired result of not endangering students. So it is with wolves and Denali.

It's only common sense.
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:56 PM
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If those wolves are killing off all the moose, maybe they need to be thinned back a bit?


And the people who kill moose too. Alaska was just fine for ten thousand years with the native americans at their subsistence level of hunting. A century or so of modern transplants from the 48 contiguous states with modern weapons have upset the natural order - entitled aholes.
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Old 05-31-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Uh... you might want to work on your analogies.

It's not legal to drive 65 mph through a school parking lot. It's also not legal to blow past the school at that speed - you have to kick it down to 30 mph (with an even lower 'if children are present' limit in some cases). Not on school property. Just nearby. See, it's not enough to just prohibit the act on the location, but also to prohibit it in the vicinity, in order to achieve the desired result of not endangering students. So it is with wolves and Denali.

It's only common sense.
You might want to re read what I said! Your reading comprehension need work.
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Old 05-31-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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And the people who kill moose too. Alaska was just fine for ten thousand years with the native americans at their subsistence level of hunting. A century or so of modern transplants from the 48 contiguous states with modern weapons have upset the natural order - entitled aholes.
And how did the moose get here?
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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And the people who kill moose too. Alaska was just fine for ten thousand years with the native americans at their subsistence level of hunting. A century or so of modern transplants from the 48 contiguous states with modern weapons have upset the natural order - entitled aholes.
And what do you think Alaska Natives use to hunt moose, caribou, whales, bears, to trap wolves, and to fish? Willow bows and arrows? No idea where you are from, but in Alaska hunters aren't separated by race. Natives and non-natives hunt just the same. In fact, some of my hunting friends are Native.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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Not interested in getting into a thing here, Ray, but I think you missed the point completely.

ETA @ bg7 -- Alaskan great white hunters aren't made up entirely of transplants. Plenty of Outsiders come up -- maybe their numbers are even higher for big game such as moose and brown bear.

Pfft on the wolf trapping.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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And the people who kill moose too. Alaska was just fine for ten thousand years with the native americans at their subsistence level of hunting. A century or so of modern transplants from the 48 contiguous states with modern weapons have upset the natural order - entitled aholes.
You are more than welcome to come up and live in a mud hut, I'll even give you a piece of flint to start a fire with! I don't know how many mastodons you will be able to kill to eat.
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Old 05-31-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Not interested in getting into a thing here, Ray, but I think you missed the point completely.
Perhaps, but the point I was trying to make is that at least the Native friends I have use modern guns, power boats, Argos, ATVs, and so on, just like everyone else. Otherwise they can't have a subsistence life stile. That poster was talking nonsense.
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