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Old 12-13-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Boise burb
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Need2Leave, can you please elaborate?
It is a nationwide epidemic that has led to more unspeakable behavior than any substance man has ever used.
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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That cancer is here too...
no kidding.......
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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It occured to me tonight that I have seen a profound change in life in the N.W. in the past 15 or so years due to meth. Have you folks seen the same troubles up there... perhaps Anc. being the exception? Down here all but the reputed "hippie" towns (seattle, portland, eugene, No. cal, etc.) have changed remarkably. It's indescribable, but the effect that stuff has on individual lives reaches quite a ways.
I think it's fairly prevalent on POW. The most disgusting thing I ever heard of was a couple of years ago when I started talking to a woman outside of the store because of this beautiful dog she had. She told me that the dog had been a "meth puppy". I had never heard of that. She said that the meth cookers would test their poision on puppies. She had somehow rescued him and said it had been very difficult because he had brain damage. He was a Golden Retriever.


And then there's the Methanuska Valley...no thanks.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Boise burb
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Bummer... it's realy a shame sometimes... never realy thought about the impact on pets.

I should qualify my previous statements with an acknowledgement to the rare 5% or so of users who despite perhaps growing up in negative environments have learned to manage their habit responsibly. Unfortunately that $**t has a way of taking hold of people that many don't escape.
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Old 12-13-2008, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I think it's fairly prevalent on POW.
no , it's rampant, an epidemic.
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Old 12-13-2008, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Over the Rainbow...
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no , it's rampant, an epidemic.
Yep, and it's ALL OVER, not just the Valley and Alaska in general, but in every state.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Southeast Alaska
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I couldn't care less about the chit-for-brains people that do it.....its the stealing, scamming and identity theft associated to fund it is the bigger problem.

Be very proficient with your auto-loader handgun, keep it close, shoot to kill as soon as they come inside.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Had a guy that I use to work with that was making close to one hundred grand a year at his job.

He got into Meth and came to work stinking (smelled very bad of chemicals) and sometimes would fall asleep standing there when you were talking with him. He got busted with his Meth lab and fired from his job...

When he was suppose to show up for his trial a few months later, he didn't show and the judge sent the State Troopers out to get him, he got busted again that day for having another Meth Lab set up in his apt....

He has pretty much lost everything he had including his family... Sweeps floors for about eight bucks an hour now if he shows up for work....
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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I couldn't care less about the chit-for-brains people that do it.....its the stealing, scamming and identity theft associated to fund it is the bigger problem.

Be very proficient with your auto-loader handgun, keep it close, shoot to kill as soon as they come inside.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Why anyone would do meth is beyond my comprehension. It permanently destroys your central nervous system and affects the brain for life. It is made of toxic chemicals that stay in the system causing damage forever. It's the nastiest drug ever introduced to human kind, as it is pure chemcal based and poison. Why young people put this crap into their body is way beyond me. Just use a gun, it is a lot faster and less painful.
I suspect you have answered your own question. Those who chronically abuse either drugs or alcohol are hoping to shut off the part of their brain that never goes to sleep, it sits in the back of the mind and talks to them continually, it tells them that there is no hope. At first, the drugs or alcohol works it frees them from their self-imposed chains- it doesn't work for an extended period of time. This part of the brain, feeding on the alcohol or drugs, is a solvent for self-esteem, eventually it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy, the more alcohol or drugs they do, the more the (substance of choice) turns them into the person they really do not want to be, but, don't know how to be any different. It is trying to escape from themselves; friends, families, lovers, et al, just get in the way. In time, they come to believe that the only thing keeping them sane is the drug or alcohol, and, they can not envision a life without it; this line of reasoning is the predominant cause of suicide, the primary cause of death in addicts or alcoholics. Some are simple suicides, shooting or hanging, or overdose. Others- suicide by cop has gotten somewhat popular down here, trains, car wrecks, boats, planes, shotguns, handguns-the list is as long as the human imagination is varied. A lot of addicts and alcoholics do a great deal of damage to others before they finally tune out, or, find a way to recover, recovery is a group effort, alone they stay high or drunk. No amount of coertion will help, it just gets them angry, in spite of all the tv programs and hype, interventions do not work, it just sidetracks the inevitable. If it seems that I paint a gloomy picture, you're right, the odds of successfully quiting are stacked against the addict or alcoholic, somewhere in the line of 33 to 1.

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