Alaska Chat III (Fox: annex, Cuban, Hungarian)

[Лютый]

Ukraine enters a visa regime for Russians. This not popular measure will disconnect thousands of families.

[stiffnecked]

Originally Posted by Лютый

Ukraine enters a visa regime for Russians. This not popular measure will disconnect thousands of families.

I think if the Ukraine wants to be an independent country then they must do this. They must take a stand against Putin and his tryranical rule. Otherwise they will fall. Then what country will Putin and his regime take next?

[Лютый]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

I think if the Ukraine wants to be an independent country then they must do this. They must take a stand against Putin and his tryranical rule. Otherwise they will fall. Then what country will Putin and his regime take next?

I say, buddy, you do not understand what you talk about. Believe me - I am an eyewitness of the events in Ukraine from November the last year. All simply enough, Russia returned the territory (without a single shot) since the Ukrainian nationalists (real fascists) took the power and declared the prohibition of Russian and began the terror against Russians. And now it's need to remember, who bombed Yugoslavia not a long ago. Was it a legal way of an introduction of democracy according to your view ? So that, if to say about something, then it is necessary to study all sides of the question.

[stiffnecked]

Originally Posted by Лютый

I say, buddy, you do not understand what you talk about. Believe me - I am an eyewitness of the events in Ukraine from November the last year. All simply enough, Russia returned the territory (without a single shot) since the Ukrainian nationalists (real fascists) took the power and declared the prohibition of Russian and began the terror against Russians. And now it's need to remember, who bombed Yugoslavia not a long ago. Was it a legal way of an introduction of democracy according to your view ? So that, if to say about something, then it is necessary to study all sides of the question.

We will just have to disagree. If Putin has his way he will try to ressurect the old USSR. Nothing good will come of this.

[Лютый]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

We will just have to disagree. If Putin has his way he will try to ressurect the old USSR. Nothing good will come of this.

I explain. First of all, Russia is the law-receiver of the USSR after its disintegration. Another hand, the announcement and actual terror of Russians, is, at least, the found for the defence of Russian population and return of its territory (Crimea). Remember how the USA protects its citizens all over the World. Why Russia does not have such right. Double standards?
If honestly on a large account there is the expansion on Orthodoxy and Slavic civilization from the side of another confessions in Global scale. The events in Ukraine are its certain displays.

[stiffnecked]

Originally Posted by Лютый

I explain. First of all, Russia is the law-receiver of the USSR after its disintegration. Another hand, the announcement and actual terror of Russians, is, at least, the found for the defence of Russian population and return of its territory (Crimea). Remember how the USA protects its citizens all over the World. Why Russia does not have such right. Double standards?
If honestly on a large account there is the expansion on Orthodoxy and Slavic civilization from the side of another confessions in Global scale. The events in Ukraine are its certain displays.

The USA does not come in and try to take over other countries. We don't invade them and claim them as our own.

[Лютый]

What about bombing Yugoslavia and Grenada and so on all over the World?

[Dakster]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

The USA does not come in and try to take over other countries. We don't invade them and claim them as our own.

You left off "lately" at the end of your sentence. Or "this Century".... Either would work. I am not complaining about it, as I am enjoying the fruits of those actions.

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I do agree that Russia has violated international law and should not be allowed to claim the Ukraine as its own.

[warptman]

I have a friend from Kazakhstan and we talked about all this mess. He explained to me when the USSR split up, they gave certain parts of Russia away without asking the residents. He said something about most of the people in the Ukraine still love Russia and wish to be a part of it again. It just got me more confused about all the mess.

[Лютый]

Dear Dackster and stiffnecked, I explain once again: Russia had to return to itself Crimea (Russia presented Crimea to Ukraine in the days of wellknown Khrushchev, by the way illegally) only for the protecting of the Russians from nazi tyranny. I know, what I talk about. I live here, in Ukraine, and I am the eyewitness of all what be going on here.