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Not only that, but the Troylettes are being given the honor of a 9.3% property tax increase next year for the privilege of living in their wonderful city. Of course, the city council that never lost an opportunity to spend money or award fat union contracts is now fulminating against it and pointing fingers in as many directions as they have fingers.
They'r also laughing at their own charade, secure in the knowledge that the morons that elected them the last time will re-elect them the next.
I don't make a habit of quoting myself, but: another year, another tax increase! (Above was for 2016. Below is for 2017.)
"...the (mayor's) 28.2 percent tax increase it came with drew groans from residents and has been the subject of intense scrutiny and debate ever since.
Friday, the first-term Democrat announced the tax hike has been modified, lowered to 25.3 percent, and he's calling on the GOP-led council to get on with business: override the cap and approve his spending plan."
From Mayor Rosemelia to Mayor Madden: Troylettes sure know how to pick 'em! (Although I understand the cops helped this process along somehow.)
Now, the Council (Republicans) have come up with a 9+% tax increase budget. So, the final will be between 9+% and 25.3%. Vs. 2014 taxes will have gone up a minimum of 20% compounded. Maybe as much as 36% or so.
They should fire the Business Improvement Director immediately because there's not going to be any business to improve at this rate.
I have a question....Why does the city of Troy have 2 school districts that serve the city(and some adjacent areas outside the city)? Why not consolidate the Troy City and Lansingburgh Central school districts? That could possibly help in regards to lessening tax issues/burdens for city residents and businesses.
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I have a question....Why does the city of Troy have 2 school districts that serve the city(and some adjacent areas outside the city)? Why not consolidate the Troy City and Lansingburgh Central school districts? That could possibly help in regards to lessening tax issues/burdens for city residents and businesses.
Because 1 person might get laid off.
How do the do school taxes in cities. In towns we get 1 bill from the town and 1 from the school district. Mine come out to $13,000 on a $300,000 house.
How do the do school taxes in cities. In towns we get 1 bill from the town and 1 from the school district. Mine come out to $13,000 on a $300,000 house.
I believe it is the same, but I was curious about why Troy is still served by 2 school districts.
I believe it is the same, but I was curious about why Troy is still served by 2 school districts.
Towns are too. Brunswick has Averill Park and Tamarac, North Greenbush has Columbia and Averill Park.
So it's only Troy's property taxes that are going up 20% - 25%. Still, that's a lot. Most of Troy is in government housing but the rest are mostly old people who are below average income if not poor. All the cops, teachers, RPI professors, etc. live out of town. It's going to be very tough on the people not on assistance.
Towns are too. Brunswick has Averill Park and Tamarac, North Greenbush has Columbia and Averill Park.
So it's only Troy's property taxes that are going up 20% - 25%. Still, that's a lot. Most of Troy is in government housing but the rest are mostly old people who are below average income if not poor. All the cops, teachers, RPI professors, etc. live out of town. It's going to be very tough on the people not on assistance.
Is this even true? While the city's poverty rate(like most cities in the country) is above the state figure, it isn't even the worst in the state and about 72% of the city and 76% of the city's families aren't in poverty. This isn't even considering the college students that contribute to the poverty rate: Troy, NY Income and Careers - USA.com™
My point about the school districts is because most cities have only 1 school district that serves that city, not 2 like Troy does. That is very rare and may be the only city in the state that is served by 2 school districts. I would think consolidating to one Greater Troy City SD would help in terms of property taxes within the city. I agree that this is going to be a pain for tax paying residents though.
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Is this even true? While the city's poverty rate(like most cities in the country) is above the state figure, it isn't even the worst in the state and about 72% of the city and 76% of the city's families aren't in poverty. This isn't even considering the college students that contribute to the poverty rate: Troy, NY Income and Careers - USA.comâ„¢
My point about the school districts is because most cities have only 1 school district that serves that city, not 2 like Troy does. That is very rare and may be the only city in the state that is served by 2 school districts. I would think consolidating to one SD would help in terms of property taxes within the city.
If it hasn't helped in the towns why should it help in the city? I don't think school taxes as especially low in Albany or Schenectady. Do they have 1 or 2 school districts.
I didn't look at your articles. But if you drive around Troy you see very little middle-middle class or better. Maybe the Crossroads. There are new townhouses on Oakwood, too. But South Troy, Lansingburgh, Sycaway, Beman Park, Albia all must be lower-middle class or worse. The houses are pretty beat and getting more so year by year. I can see a difference just in the last five years.
If it hasn't helped in the towns why should it help in the city? I don't think school taxes as especially low in Albany or Schenectady. Do they have 1 or 2 school districts.
I didn't look at your articles. But if you drive around Troy you see very little middle-middle class or better. Maybe the Crossroads. There are new townhouses on Oakwood, too. But South Troy, Lansingburgh, Sycaway, Beman Park, Albia all must be lower-middle class or worse. The houses are pretty beat and getting more so year by year. I can see a difference just in the last five years.
It applies for towns as well, which may or may not have help from an industry presence and why County school districts should be something residents should consider. What hurts cities is that there is quite a few tax exempt properties like colleges and churches as well. This doesn't get into other layers of government. Both of those cities have only 1 district, which I believe that you know is the case.
As for the information, it is relatively recent information(2010-2014) that was retrieved from the census. It is the result of an average of census information from each year of that time period. So, it does includes information from within the past 5 years. Albia appears to still be straight/solidly middle class and the most relatively affluent area of the city: Census Tract 041200 in Rensselaer County, New York
It applies for towns as well, which may or may not have help from an industry presence and why County school districts should be something residents should consider. What hurts cities is that there is quite a few tax exempt properties like colleges and churches as well. This doesn't get into other layers of government. Both of those cities have only 1 district, which I believe that you know is the case.
As for the information, it is relatively recent information(2010-2014) that was retrieved from the census. It is the result of an average of census information from each year of that time period. So, it does includes information from within the past 5 years. Albia appears to still be straight/solidly middle class and the most relatively affluent area of the city: Census Tract 041200 in Rensselaer County, New York
The other tracts/block groups listed are more lower to straight middle class(metro median household income is $61,841 for this time period).
Drive out Pawling Ave. and tell me it's middle class. They were moaning about all the tax exempt property in Troy when I was a teenager. 50 years of this. The neighborhoods weren't bad then. Now they are. It's simply that they got old along with their people and taxes when from high to extortionary. Cluetts is gone. Marshall Ray is gone. There isn't 1 new car dealer, just a bunch of 3rd hand car lots. It seems the only thing there are more of is bars and I can understand why.
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