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Old 02-06-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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He said today that he will get a raise for his people no matter what happens.
This attitude is why manufacturing has slowly been leaving the US for the past 30 years.
Any thoughts?
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:00 AM
 
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I agree with you totally. The unions are pricing themselves right out of the market, with constant salary increases and lucrative benefit packages, especially pensions. Not only manufacturing but other jobs are being shipped overseas because it is cheaper: no union regulations.
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Old Forge, NY
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I'm glad I once again live in a union free area. When I moved to the Capital area from out west, I briefly landed a city utility job. They told me I needed to join a union and I almost didn't take the job because of that.

Why would a I need a union rep to watch my back? For a govt related work? I work hard, do a great job, and I'm reliable. I can negotiate my own wages thank you very much. I've been laid off once before, due to economic reasons and I understand that. I also understand that if I don't do my job or don't adhere to the employee handbook, I should be fired.

I can understand the roles of unions in the past, when working conditions were terrible and dangerous....before labor laws and OSHA. But now? Especially with govt jobs? Gimmie a break. It's just another layer of potential corruption and mismanagement that drains profits and efficiency.

Regarding police union rep. It's HIS JOB to negotiate a package that's favorable for union members. But someone has to pay him to do it...right?

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Old 02-12-2010, 01:53 AM
 
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Oh boy. This is tough for me because I'm a pro-union pinko commie.


But these cops...... heh..... these cops, they test me.
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Old Forge, NY
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Oh boy. This is tough for me because I'm a pro-union pinko commie.


But these cops...... heh..... these cops, they test me.
I'm actually a registered Democrat and an enviro wacko that believes in health care reform and heavier regulation in the banking industry.

Another beef I have with unions, particularly construction related unions, is their aggressive tactics to get work. My wife worked for a development company in Clifton Park. Now and then these meat heads would show up with this intimidating attitude, like they could scare people in the office into giving them work.
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Old 02-13-2010, 01:23 AM
 
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In the past I have been a member of CSEA and I could never figure out what the money I gave them did for me, really. It just seemed like another layer of "bossdom." My impression is that, in many cases, unions go to bat for people who haven't done what they're required to do.
However, to say that unions are the sole reason for "manufacturing . . . leaving the US" is an oversimplification, IMO.
I agree with Rumblebelly about the good unionization did in the past, but now...?
Ennnhh.
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