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Old 08-18-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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More and more craft brews are coming out in cans. I think it's a marketing gimmick to appeal to the hipsters and Gen-Yers who've made cans "legit" again. Actually there was a beer blog that compared craft ales from cans versus the same brews from bottles and they concluded that cans tasted better & poured a better head.
Smoke's, my worry is, BPA, BPA, BPA in these cans, no?

I'd love cans - to save $ too - but worry the beer leaches the BPA out of cans. Anyone confirm any beer maker that is BPA-can free? If so, I'm there.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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I'd love cans - to save $ too - but worry the beer leaches the BPA out of cans. Anyone confirm any beer maker that is BPA-can free? If so, I'm there.
All food and beverage cans on the market have resin liners which contain tiny amounts of BPA. Tests show that only a tiny part, out of this tiny amount, winds up in the food or drink.

How tiny?:
"Stated another way, an average adult consumer would have to ingest more than 230 kilograms (or about 500 pounds) of canned food and beverages every day for an entire lifetime to exceed the safe level of BPA set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency."
Epoxy Resin Can Coatings: Bisphenol A Safety

There are a lot of things worth worrying about. This is not one of them.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Yes, I'd much rather drink my beer out of an impermeable glass bottle that won't leach chemicals into my beverage than out of a BPA-lined can.
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Yes, I'd much rather drink my beer out of an impermeable glass bottle that won't leach chemicals into my beverage than out of a BPA-lined can.
Like your characterization, I find this particular "scare" to be hugely overblown. Most cans of all description use the same lining, and most restaurants used canned ingredients, so to be consistent you'd also have to totally eliminate canned goods and restaurant meals from your lifestyle, and I just don't see most people doing that. Nor do i see any reason to.

Yes, getting the BPA out of baby bottles made sense, because their BPA content was so much higher and because infants are affected by it more easily. Over time I'm sure it will be eliminated completely as can linings are reformulated.

But since I would have to consume 500 pounds of food and drink a day from cans in order to exceed safe levels, it's just not a real problem in my world.

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Old 08-24-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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I've never had a good Belgian beer. It's overrated swill, IMHO.

I never understood how these silly beer snobs would turn their nose up at Molson Canadian and then turn to the bartender and order Stella Artois. Really? Is Stella Artois not a mass produced lager as well (i.e. the "Molson Canadian of Belgium")???

As for the can vs. bottle debate, I don't care what my beer comes in as long as its not green bottles. Skunky beer is nasty (although it seems the Dutch enjoy it that way!).
You can't say Belgian Beers are crap and then mention Stella. That's like saying there is no good food in America and citing the existence of McDonald's as proof. Also there are nearly 20 different styles of beer in Belgium resulting in hundreds and hundreds of different products. I assume you have had at least 5-10 of each style to come to your conclusion?

Anyway, as a craft brewer, I am all for the surge in canned brews. There are quite a few good canned beers in Colorado and New Mexico.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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You can't say Belgian Beers are crap and then mention Stella. That's like saying there is no good food in America and citing the existence of McDonald's as proof.
lol!
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:05 PM
 
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A wise man once said, “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” If that’s really true, why can’t beer drinkers across the world be just as happy consuming their favorite brand from a can as a bottle?

I was reminded of this great debate during a July 4th barbeque at my house when a perplexed younger neighbor pulled a chilled can of (imported) beer from the cooler and asked the following:

“Do you…um…like…have anything I can pour this in?”

Bottle Or Can? The Great Beer Debate Rages On - Forbes
NEITHER, when I do have a beer (or other alcohol) which is every few years if that often it is ONLY on tap obviously not the other alcohol on tap but you should get my point.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:38 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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You can't say Belgian Beers are crap and then mention Stella. That's like saying there is no good food in America and citing the existence of McDonald's as proof. Also there are nearly 20 different styles of beer in Belgium resulting in hundreds and hundreds of different products. I assume you have had at least 5-10 of each style to come to your conclusion?

Anyway, as a craft brewer, I am all for the surge in canned brews. There are quite a few good canned beers in Colorado and New Mexico.
I agree, on several counts. There are many good Belgium beers. There even brews labeled as "Belgian Wheat," etc. Saying Belgian beers are bad is a blanket indictment against hundreds of different flavors.

On the other hand, my 60+ years of life experiences has taught me that avoiding McDonald's is almost universally a wise choice.

From this home brewer comes another perspective. I bottle my beer. I like it in bottles. A bottle filler and a capper cost less than $20. I can't imagine what I would have to spend to be able to can my beer.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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From this home brewer comes another perspective. I bottle my beer. I like it in bottles. A bottle filler and a capper cost less than $20. I can't imagine what I would have to spend to be able to can my beer.
True, and until a relatively short time ago... in beer years... canning was out of the reach of all but the biggest brewers. But a breakthrough in canning technology brought the cost of the equipment way down, and then craft brewers started working with co-ops and canning services, so canning is gaining some traction because of all the aforementioned desirable attributes of a can over a bottle... lower weight and more compact storage, hence lower shipping costs; superior protection against light; longer shelf life with fresher taste; faster to chill; no broken glass danger, etc.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Greg, from cats to booze, you do it ALL!

Just joking, but you're right, screw caps, though cheesy sounding, are better than corks as air can't filter thru a screw cap as it can a cork.
Screw caps are still very much up for debate, and it isn't just people being biased against the cap's perceived "cheese factor"
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