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Old 05-14-2013, 02:56 PM
 
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Good points. I would add though that the Germans got pilsner from the Czechs (I have to stick up for my Bohemian ancestors).
Exactly, with Pilsner Urquell being the first golden beer...although Josef Groll was a German brewing in Bohemia (Plzn).
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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I have yet to try an American pilsner that is on par with German pilsner like Warsteiner though. We still got work to do here in the states in that category.
Mostly I think it's just not a style a lot of craft brewers are very familiar with. But given that a lot of people I know have been expressing IPA-fatigue recently, I think we could see some different styles being offered.

I did have some Sam Adams Nobel Pils last year that was excellent.

I've also had Trumer Pils a few times... supposedly authentic to the Czech recipe... but I didn't love it.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Not in the case of the many diverse craft breweries which apparently are meeting the palates of the Germans. Certainly pilsners are lagers in America were heavily influenced by German beer tradition. Even with that though, American beer drinkers shifted their tastes towards lighter bodied, rice heavy beers.

The craft beers here have really been kicking butt and gaining much attention, both domestic and otherwise. Styles like Indian pale ale, which is English in origin. The style has become rather popular among many American beer aficionados. The style originated out of a necessity for the crown of England to ship beer around the empire without risk of spoilage a few hundred years ago. Hops being a mild antibiotic, it was used in large quantities to meet this demand.

How about imperial stout? Same issue for the Russians. Beer must survive long voyages across a vast empire. Alcohol being an obvious antibiotic, brewing a beer with a higher ABV solved their dilemma.

Tons of styles out there, and the Germans only influenced a fraction of those enjoyed today. In fact, the beer laws that Germany was famous for largely restricted them from exploring anything but the most standard and vanilla of styles enjoyed today. I have yet to try an American pilsner that is on par with German pilsner like Warsteiner though. We still got work to do here in the states in that category.

Look for pilsners from Victory Brewing they have several pilsners that are as good if not better than their German counterparts. I think Prima Pilsner is their best selling one.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Louisiana and Pennsylvania
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Mostly I think it's just not a style a lot of craft brewers are very familiar with. But given that a lot of people I know have been expressing IPA-fatigue recently, I think we could see some different styles being offered.

I did have some Sam Adams Nobel Pils last year that was excellent.

I've also had Trumer Pils a few times... supposedly authentic to the Czech recipe... but I didn't love it.
I would love to try Trummer, but it is basically non-existent on the East Coast.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Look for pilsners from Victory Brewing they have several pilsners that are as good if not better than their German counterparts. I think Prima Pilsner is their best selling one.
I checked beer advocate. They have over 100 beers

The problem I have with many of these American craft breweries... So much variety and you never really know what to start with. Certainly not something to really complain about, but it makes it a daunting task when it comes to shopping for a new brew.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I did have some Sam Adams Nobel Pils last year that was excellent.
Thanks for the tip, I'll make a note of it. Shouldn't be too much of a problem to locate.

They have really impressed me over the years. Even as they've gained popularity and market share, they've continued to produce quality brews that beer aficionados can appreciate. While there is very little to look forward to when winter roles around, I do enjoy being able to order a SA winter lager in most any reputable bar.
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