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USA for sure. In the past 20+ years, the craft beer movement has really brought American beer a long way. (Would not have said this based on US Major Brands like Bud, Miller, Coors, etc.)
Japan: Asahi and Sapporo
VietNam: 333 and Saigon
Thailand: Singha and Chang
Italy: Peroni
Ireland: not a beer, but Magner's Irish Cider. Just as good as.
Not in any order, but left out.
The best microbrew I ever had was a full bodied wheat beer with flavor and did I say body. It was practically a meal, which it's supposed to be. Beer is liquid bread with the same ingredients and it's the staff of life, so it's no wonder we love it.
I'll have to say England (or the UK in general), since my first "real" beer was Newcastle Brown, and a lot of early American craft brews took inspiration from there/them. It's just a shame they aren't as readily available as in the past, and not always in the best condition once they arrive here.
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USA without a doubt, mainly because we have so many now who've been able to emulate/perfect the styles created around the rest of the world.
I wouldn't say "perfect". A lot of American takes on old world styles tend to be more brash and loud, sometimes one dimensional. Something exactly like Kostritzer, Hofbrau Maibock, or Samuel Smith Nut Brown... I'd have to search far and wide for.
English Cider is also world famous and has a long history.
Outside the US all Cider is generally what Americans would call Hard Cider, anything else would be Apple Juice, whilst Perry is a similar drink made with Pears
There are plenty of smaller cider and perry breweries and even farm breweries, especially in the South West of England and parts of Wales.
Large mainstream cider produces include Bulmers which brewed under numerous names including Strongbow and Woodpeckers and also has historic links to Magna's Irish Cider, then you have H.Weston & Sons Limited ("Weston's Cider") which produces a number of ciders and perry's including Stowford Press,and then you have Thatchers who also do a variety of Ciders and Perry.
What's wrong with you people???? It has to be Ireland because it's the Land of Guinness!! I've had beer in all those countries except Canada, and Ireland wins hands down!!! Not only Guinness, but Smithwick's, Kilkenny, and don't even talk about great whisky- Bushmills rules! Jameson is a distant second!
A Porter Stouts and IPA's, originated from London.
As for Arthur Guinness (1725 – 1803) he was a devote protestant and unionist, who did not start brewing in Dublin until 1759, and Guinness married Olivia Whitmore, a younger woman from a wealthy and well-connected family who offered him a £1,000 dowry (a vast fortune at the time). Whitmore was a descendant of William of Wykeham (the Bishop of Winchester) and had several socio-politically prominent relatives. Guinness was a member of the Irish Volunteers who sought to defend Ireland from French invasion.
As for Guinness, Smithicks and Kilkenny they are all owned y British multinational Diageo, who are planning to open a new craft brewery and Guinness attraction in London.
The British breweries I have listed, such as Fullers, Black Sheep (Milk Porter), Samuel Smiths (Taddy Porter), Shepherds Neame, Brains etc all do decent porters and stouts.
Whilst Black Anspach & Hobday is proving to be a worthy alternative to draught Guinness.
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