Allergy shots for a severe allergy (painful, doctors, symptoms, treated)

[laidbackhippie]

Analysis of an H1 receptor-mediated, zinc-potentia... [Br J Pharmacol. 1998] - PubMed result

[laidbackhippie]

Originally Posted by bluedevilz

VA Cat

I have the same condition, only found out a couple of years ago when I got a wasp sting and had to take a nice ambulance ride to the ED for the same treatment you describe.

I have been getting allergy shots ever since. Started at once a week, 2 years later I am at every 6 weeks for injections.

I have been stung once since starting the immunotherapy and had nothing more than a local reaction to the sting. My leg swelled up but no hives, no anaphylactic reaction, didn't even have to use my Epi Pen.

I would definitely recommend you see a local allergist and discuss this, it can be a life saver.

Zinc lowers estrogen, the phyto-estrogens from plants like soy.

read this OK ?

Adult onset Allergy


(gosh, I sure hope I spelled everything right)

[bluedevilz]

Originally Posted by laidbackhippie

Zinc lowers estrogen, the phyto-estrogens from plants like soy.

read this OK ?

Adult onset Allergy


(gosh, I sure hope I spelled everything right)

I read it, did you?

It does nothing to support your position of Zinc as a treatment for anaphylaxis to a known allergen, hymenoptera venom.

Let me know when you find a double blinded controlled study showing efficacy of Zinc in blocking histamine release in humans in response to exposure with a known allergen resulting in anaphylaxis...

(hint: you won't find one because it doesn't exist)

[laidbackhippie]

Originally Posted by bluedevilz

I read it, did you?

It does nothing to support your position of Zinc as a treatment for anaphylaxis to a known allergen, hymenoptera venom.

Let me know when you find a double blinded controlled study showing efficacy of Zinc in blocking histamine release in humans in response to exposure with a known allergen resulting in anaphylaxis...

(hint: you won't find one because it doesn't exist)

I read it. That's why I posted it.

I NEVER said zinc treats anaphylaxis.

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simple water DOES block histamine release



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[Va-Cat]

Originally Posted by bluedevilz

VA Cat

I have the same condition, only found out a couple of years ago when I got a wasp sting and had to take a nice ambulance ride to the ED for the same treatment you describe.

I have been getting allergy shots ever since. Started at once a week, 2 years later I am at every 6 weeks for injections.

I have been stung once since starting the immunotherapy and had nothing more than a local reaction to the sting. My leg swelled up but no hives, no anaphylactic reaction, didn't even have to use my Epi Pen.

I would definitely recommend you see a local allergist and discuss this, it can be a life saver.

I have an appt on Friday but its only for a consultation. They called again this afternoon after getting my records from the ER visit. Because of my severe reaction, they will only do the "sensitivity testing" (it think thats what she called it) in a hospital setting. I will also have to have an IV inserted as a precaution!

Originally Posted by SouthernBelleInUtah

He did get stung a few years later and had a welt but that was it. They keep giving you the lowest dose until it no longer makes your skin red. Then you get the next higher dose until you tolerate it, etc. They make you wait for 30 min as I remember to be sure you don't have a reaction.

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Thanks for the extra info on this. I hope its that easy for me!

Originally Posted by DewDropInn

Va-Cat: Do you have a good allergist? I get the same reactions from bee stings but my allergist advised against the shots for this particular problem. (For reasons specific to my own allergies.)

However... I did get shots for years and years for other things. Yes. They start out with a small dose and increase it as time goes on. And they do have you sit and wait after you get the shot.

If you have a good allergist he/she can do the skin tests and discuss this with you. Good luck. The "been in a war" sounds familiar. I feel for you. Hang tough!

Thanks! I have a consult on Friday and will then have to set up an appt for "sensitivity testing" at the hospital. The allergist I'm seeing comes very highly recommended. I'm not thrilled with taking shots but I'm even less thrilled with not being able to breath!

[Va-Cat]

Originally Posted by laidbackhippie

I NEVER said zinc treats anaphylaxis

Umm - I'm sorry to contradict you but yes you did. My original post asked for suggestions related to a severe anaphylaxic reaction and you posted "Zinc suppliments" with a link in response to my post.

[laidbackhippie]

It's always a good idea to prevent allergic reactions in the first place. Which is EXACTLY what you are ATTEMPTING with your 50% unknown preservative shots.

YOU are in essence asking "what do I do when I catch fire ?"
AND I am saying "don't light yourself on fire in the first place"

If you (or anyone with allergies) supplements with zinc anaphylaxis will be diminished or non existant.

SO, we both know what my answer of zinc was meant to imply.

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[bluedevilz]

Originally Posted by laidbackhippie

It's always a good idea to prevent allergic reactions in the first place. Which is EXACTLY what you are ATTEMPTING with your 50% unknown preservative shots.

YOU are in essence asking "what do I do when I catch fire ?"
AND I am saying "don't light yourself on fire in the first place"

If you (or anyone with allergies) supplements with zinc anaphylaxis will be diminished or non existant.

SO, we both know what my answer of zinc was meant to imply.

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There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support your position that zinc prevents an anaphylactic reaction NONE

So you are asking people to risk their lives using an unproven supplement rather than use a tried and true, well studied, well understood treatment like immunotherapy....

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Va-Cat

Thanks for responding but I think you don't quite understand what I'm saying here. This isn't hay fever. I don't get a runny nose and watery eyes - my reaction to stings has gone way beyond that. My face and lips balloon and my throat starts to swell shut. In other words, I find myself unable move air in and out of my lungs. If I can't get to a hospital when I'm stung, I would probably die.

Besides, zinc has also been noted as having some very nasty side effects due to varying absorption rates. It is also contrainicated with certain vital heart medications. I appreciate the response but think I'll pass on the zinc.

Make an appointment with a doctor and get yourself set up for allergy shots. My dad use to deal with the same thing and almost died once when his throat closed up.

Before scheduling you for shots; they find out what triggers your allergic reactions through tests.

[Zimbochick]

Originally Posted by Va-Cat

I have an appt on Friday but its only for a consultation. They called again this afternoon after getting my records from the ER visit. Because of my severe reaction, they will only do the "sensitivity testing" (it think thats what she called it) in a hospital setting. I will also have to have an IV inserted as a precaution!

Thanks for the extra info on this. I hope its that easy for me!

Thanks! I have a consult on Friday and will then have to set up an appt for "sensitivity testing" at the hospital. The allergist I'm seeing comes very highly recommended. I'm not thrilled with taking shots but I'm even less thrilled with not being able to breath!

I may be inclined to ask for a second opinion on the testing. My son has severe allergies, and there are 2 allergists in the practice we use, both highly regarded, but very different in their allergy management. One doc wanted to do the sensitivity testing in the hospital, and other said we didn't need to as we had proof of the severity of the reaction. Just a thought.