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Old 05-20-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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You could benefit with grape seed ex for your MCS issue, I don't have that issue but a life of allergy/sinus issues before 1995 and did the drugs and allergist and no more, no drugs, etc. for going on 21 yrs. MD's only know drugs. They are their bread and butter....
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry, NC
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Default Side effects from Cetrizine

I had been taking Cetirizine at night for cat and dust allergies. But on side-effect scared me enough to stop it. While lying half awake, I started mentally repeating phrases over and over, stopping only with difficulty. I was scared enough to consider going to an emergency room. But I was able to distract myself enough by getting up, talking ad reading to distract myself.

Thus I am sure it has mental effects, and I want to warn people. Has anyone else similar effects?
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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Thanks to the OP for the information. About six months ago I was diagnosed as being allergic to just about everything. My allergist tried me on different meds, and I didn't do well on any of them. I'm lucky that I don't have continuous symptoms and am able to take a Xyzal only when I'm really stuffed up. It and Zyrtec are the only ones that help, but both will turn me into a zombie for the day. The allergy shots I've been taking for 3 months have made a difference -- less stuffiness, less headaches. After reading this information, I'm glad I didn't take the allergy meds religiously.


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I have many intolerant food issues also. I started using these: http://www.amazon.com/PRO-15-Recomme...ilpage_o00_s00

and they cleared up. I do the subscription, and get 1 bottle every 60 days. I swallow 1 pill each day. I lost 20 lbs in a few months, and I now maintain my weight without even trying. I no longer go constantly between constipation one day, and diarrhea the next. Maybe it'll work for you.
This post caught my eye because I started these probiotics a couple of weeks ago. I had been taking others but wanted to try something new. Any updates, MikeBear?
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Thanks to the OP for the information. About six months ago I was diagnosed as being allergic to just about everything. My allergist tried me on different meds, and I didn't do well on any of them. I'm lucky that I don't have continuous symptoms and am able to take a Xyzal only when I'm really stuffed up. It and Zyrtec are the only ones that help, but both will turn me into a zombie for the day. The allergy shots I've been taking for 3 months have made a difference -- less stuffiness, less headaches. After reading this information, I'm glad I didn't take the allergy meds religiously.




This post caught my eye because I started these probiotics a couple of weeks ago. I had been taking others but wanted to try something new. Any updates, MikeBear?

I am still taking those probiotics on Amazon's "Subscribe and Save" plan, and they are still working well for me. The first month I took 2 pills a day, or the entire bottle in one month. Since then, I take a single pill a day, or 1 bottle every two months.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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Thanks for the update on the probiotics! They're worth a shot.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Geez, think I'll try them too. I take zyrtec almost daily for allergies, at least for the last year. Before that, it was just occasionally. And as for the Grapeseed, is it extract or is the Grapeseed oil good as well?
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:13 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Geez, think I'll try them too. I take zyrtec almost daily for allergies, at least for the last year. Before that, it was just occasionally. And as for the Grapeseed, is it extract or is the Grapeseed oil good as well?
I tried probiotics for my allergies for six months and it didn't help. I keep picking up new food allergies so I was hoping I would cure myself somehow and that would stop happening.

I was afraid to try grape seed extract because I read that it is sometimes mixed with peanut skin because peanut is cheaper, kind of like the way olive oil is sometimes mixed with sunflower oil.

I think grapeseed oil for cooking is refined and wouldn't have the same health benefits.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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We used to get the "Week" it is a good little magazine, but in this case, I think I would have to see the article, see who wrote it, and learn more about the study. Let's face it, first of all, most of us have taken alergy meds; well not most, but a lot have and most of us are just fine and next, we all have to learn to take these things with a grain of salt. Think of all the studies that have been done, later to be proven not complete or not enough people tested. High cholesterol: heart attack (maybe not) sodium: high blood pressure (maybe not) eggs and shellfish, no (maybe wrong) a quart of milk a day for kids: not and on and on and on.

My physician told me very recently to avoid OTC Meds with Benadryl because taking them consistently (like many people do for allergies) eventually causes memory problems in older people.

I did quite a bit of research a couple of years ago on the study quoted in the OP's post. Apparently, antihistamines are anti-chlolinergic, which means they destroy choline in the brain. Choline does not regenerate, so what is destroyed in the brain stays deleted. Choline is needed for memory. This study seems well researched and I'm not taking any chances.

The more you take the drugs listed in the full study, the more chance of memory loss you will have. Many other drugs beside anti-histamines are listed. If you look at the entire list, you may find prescriptions you've taken in the past. For instance - Tenormin, a drug given for heart issues. My relative took this med for years. Guess what? She had early onset Alzheimer's and was dead at age 75. Before you diss this study, go on-line and read more.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I did quite a bit of research a couple of years ago on the study quoted in the OP's post. Apparently, antihistamines are anti-chlolinergic, which means they destroy choline in the brain. Choline does not regenerate, so what is destroyed in the brain stays deleted. Choline is needed for memory. This study seems well researched and I'm not taking any chances.
Choline is a vitamin. You can buy bottles of it. Did you mean acetylcholine? Acetylcholine functions as a neurotransmitter in humans.

Some antihistamines are anticholinergic, not all. Second generation antihistamines like Zyrtec, Allegra and Claritin are not anticholinergic.

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The more you take the drugs listed in the full study, the more chance of memory loss you will have.
I take Allegra D daily. Not anticholinergic.

A couple of times a year I have an allergy attack that can't be controlled by anything other than 50 mg Benadryl. I feel pretty confident that very occasional use like this is safe.

But some people have been using Benadryl 365 days a year as a sleep aid. And they're probably pretty worried right now.
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