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Old 03-21-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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I cannot imagine any alternative treatment that could safely remove part of the stomach, part of the pancreas, and the entire duodenum resulting in 16 more years of life.
Everyone agrees that surgery is sometimes necessary. Alternative medicine does not include surgery, since that is well taken care of by mainstream medicine.
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Everyone agrees that surgery is sometimes necessary. Alternative medicine does not include surgery, since that is well taken care of by mainstream medicine.
What just blows me away is that so many here especially think there is only ONE WAY to achieve health and wellness. So far from the truth, but they argue to I guess convince themselves. Minds so closed to "real" natural types of protocols.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:32 PM
 
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What just blows me away is that so many here especially think there is only ONE WAY to achieve health and wellness. So far from the truth, but they argue to I guess convince themselves. Minds so closed to "real" natural types of protocols.
The real natural protocols are diet and exercise.

All you are doing is saying your pill is better than someone else's pill.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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I agree with the OP. There are, however, more and more Allopathic Doctors who are embracing "integrative" medicine, though. Thinking about cardiologists Dean Ornish, Stephen Sinatra-- and general doctor, Andrew Weil.

But for most traditional physicians, as long as the medical schools give scant attention to diet, nutrition, supplements, and herbs, we can expect business as usual in being prescribed medications without attention to integration.

As a nation, we're way behind other nations in this. For example, in Germany, one of the first considerations for high blood pressure is using hawthorn, which does a good job of lowering blood pressure without the rather nasty side effects of prescription medications (ask me--I know from personal experience).

I wish we were more enlightened in medical integration. Western medicine is terrific in certain areas -- not so much in other areas.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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The real natural protocols are diet and exercise.

All you are doing is saying your pill is better than someone else's pill.
Not quite. A fair number of ailments can come from a lack of certain vitamins, minerals and other non-prescription supplements/medications.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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I agree with the OP. There are, however, more and more Allopathic Doctors who are embracing "integrative" medicine, though. Thinking about cardiologists Dean Ornish, Stephen Sinatra-- and general doctor, Andrew Weil.

But for most traditional physicians, as long as the medical schools give scant attention to diet, nutrition, supplements, and herbs, we can expect business as usual in being prescribed medications without attention to integration.

As a nation, we're way behind other nations in this. For example, in Germany, one of the first considerations for high blood pressure is using hawthorn, which does a good job of lowering blood pressure without the rather nasty side effects of prescription medications (ask me--I know from personal experience).

I wish we were more enlightened in medical integration. Western medicine is terrific in certain areas -- not so much in other areas.
I so totally agree 1000%,, try everything as natural as possible and then if necessary go to the big guns..but that is NOT allopathic money driven world.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Not quite. A fair number of ailments can come from a lack of certain vitamins, minerals and other non-prescription supplements/medications.
Thus leading back to my comment about diet.....
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Thus leading back to my comment about diet.....
Oh Mikala, I'm thinking MOST don't eat as great as you do. I wonder if I had a chef/cook to prepare all my foods would things have been different early on. I was busy working for 40 yrs, raising a child and did my best with my foods. I'll never know. We all have been on our paths, you see that don't you?
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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Oh Mikala, I'm thinking MOST don't eat as great as you do. I wonder if I had a chef/cook to prepare all my foods would things have been different early on. I'll never know.
Why need a chef? I DO love to cook though!

Couldn't find anything to back up Germany using Hawthorn as a primary response to HBP.

https://academic.oup.com/ajh/article/29/1/104/2622507


That says the use of meds has greatly increased in Germany as treatment for HBP, and that it is associated as the reason HBP has been going down in that location.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Why need a chef? I DO love to cook though!

Couldn't find anything to back up Germany using Hawthorn as a primary response to HBP.

https://academic.oup.com/ajh/article/29/1/104/2622507


That says the use of meds has greatly increased in Germany as treatment for HBP, and that it is associated as the reason HBP has been going down in that location.
I enjoy cooking too, did you read my comments above here. I'm done here for now.
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