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Old 06-13-2012, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Havana, Cuba - Most 'european' city in the Carribbean?

If you agree, what makes it so?

If you disagree, why isn't it?

Additionally, what are some other Carribbean cities you'd put in the same category?

 
Old 06-13-2012, 03:07 AM
 
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I agree and disagree at the same time.

Cuba is one of the countries of Latin America that is most similar to Spain, was the last colony and have always been connected (immigration, culture, music). And you see this connection in the style of the cities and the houses. This similarity is especially noticeable in Andalusia and the Canary Islands, from where most of the inmigrants were. There is an architectural style, arquitectura indiana, very typical of Asturias, in northern Spain, similar to the Latin American colonial houses.

There's also a group of Cuban dissidents who supports that Cuba become again an autonomous region of Spain.

Speaking about Havana,it's really similar tu Cadiz. There is a saying in Cuba and also in Spain that is :"La Habana es Cádiz con más negritos, Cádiz es La Habana con más salero"but otherwise, Cadiz is not a typical european city and doesn't have an european style.
 
Old 06-13-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Willemstad and Philipsburg?
 
Old 06-13-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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If by "Europe" you mean "Chisinau, Moldova" then yes, Havana is the most European city in the Caribbean.
 
Old 06-13-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Probably not these days, but maybe a lot more so before. It's possible that some of the current European possessions, territories, and/or states in the Caribbean are more European.
 
Old 06-13-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chascarrillo View Post
I agree and disagree at the same time.

Cuba is one of the countries of Latin America that is most similar to Spain, was the last colony and have always been connected (immigration, culture, music). And you see this connection in the style of the cities and the houses. This similarity is especially noticeable in Andalusia and the Canary Islands, from where most of the inmigrants were. There is an architectural style, arquitectura indiana, very typical of Asturias, in northern Spain, similar to the Latin American colonial houses.

There's also a group of Cuban dissidents who supports that Cuba become again an autonomous region of Spain.

Speaking about Havana,it's really similar tu Cadiz. There is a saying in Cuba and also in Spain that is :"La Habana es Cádiz con más negritos, Cádiz es La Habana con más salero"but otherwise, Cadiz is not a typical european city and doesn't have an european style.
What makes Cadiz not a typical european city? Just curious...
 
Old 06-13-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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Actually, I don't think any of the cities in the Caribbean basin look particularly like cities in Europe. Even the cities in European colonies (like Fort-de-France in Martinique) don't look that much like their parent countries. They are distinctly Caribbean in various ways. The Dutch West Indies (Aruba, Curaçao, etc.) don't remind me much at all of the Netherlands itself. And the British colonies would look badly out-of-place anywhere near England.

One interesting Caribbean city is Cap-Haïtien, the biggest city in northern Haiti. Its central city was laid out in a grid pattern with dense three-to-five floor commercial/residential buildings in the style of late-1700's colonies, with wrought-iron and outdoor terraces and all the rest. The city has sprawled out since then, but the core itself is a fascinating place to visit.
 
Old 06-13-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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I've been to San Juan and thought that was fairly European - at least Old San Juan.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 05:06 AM
 
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Saying that Havana is a very European city is repeating the same letany than Argentinians.
Havana was a very Spanish city until 1959 (communist revolution) and was a REAL Spanish city until 1898. 30 percent of its population in 1959 was born in Spain. They city also sported a Chinatown, a Jewish neighbourhood and a Lebanese neighbourhood, they all fled to Miami.
Though most of the white population of Havana fled, the city still retains a very Spanish character.
The city of Havana was modeled by the Italian architects of Charles III, so it has a flair very resemblant to Madrid and Cadiz.
Other sections of the city are more American or have a French or Italian style, so you have gated communities frozen in times now inhabitted by squatters, plush neighbourhoods that now serve to lodge embassies, etc.
Havana resembles a real Spanish/French city whose white inhabitants deserted 50 years ago, something like Argel, Casablanca or Tetuan.
The city does not have anything to do with any "Latin" city, in fact, Cubans abhor Latins.
Havana is just one of those places lost in time.

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:53 AM
 
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Cool la LOCURA de BLANCURA

LOL! This is one of the numerous statements where some Latin Americans would like to prove (to whomever..) how European or how White they are..

Interesting that we don't see the same amount of effort, not even close, to prove how African this or that city or country in LatAm is.
If there's any, then (places in) Cuba would certainly be among the most African ones in that part of the world.
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