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Old 02-18-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Vegas
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Is a decade of progress in Latin America coming to an end? For some countries, surely. But not necessarily for the entire region. Four nations are developing an initiative that could add new dynamism to Latin America, redraw the economic map of the region, and boost its connections with the rest of the world—especially Asia. It could also offer neighboring countries a pragmatic alternative to the more political groupings dominated by Brazil, Cuba, and Venezuela.
I originally found this at War News Update that linked to The Most Important Alliance You've Never Heard Of - Moisés Naím - The Atlantic

It appears that a lot of our southern neighbors are getting tired of US policy – or lack thereof – and are deciding to cooperate among themselves. And Mexico appears to be leading the way. Good for President Nieto

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Old 02-18-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I view this move as a positive thing.

In recent years most of the Latin American alliance attempts were pushed by Cuba, Venezeula, Boliva, etc as a means of furthering and spreading their anti-American agenda which leaders like Mexican President Pena Nieto and Chilean President Michelle Bachelet recognize as not a viable option. It wasent about furthering cooperation among Latin American nations ... it was about antagonizing and riling up trouble against the big bad Gringos.

I know many in Latin America are still stuck in the 1950s and 60s Cold War mentality but the United States is the 3rd largest Spanish speaking nation in the world, we ARE the biggest Latin American nation. By mid century we will have more Latin Americans than Mexico and Spain combined ... and wheelchair bound 90 year old Nicholas Maduro will still be babbling about the Yankee imperialists who by then could very well be speaking Spanish as their first language
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I doubt Nicolas Maduro will be relevant by that time.

This is Venezuela for the last few days, including today, and its nationwide:





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Old 02-18-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I have been watching news about the Pacific Alliance closely and there is alot of things I really like about this Alliance. They have taken some very important steps to opening up trade and commerce. The Alliance seems alot more concrete then anything ALBA has ever done. I hope more Latin countries join, but they should also be selective about those new countries that join. I wish them the best and I hope they see continued growth and prosperity together.

Costa Rica is officially on its way to becoming a member. I have read Panama and Guatemala are interested in joining as well.

And about Maduro....alot of those leftist countries appear to be sinking ships. I agree with alot of things Chavez said about the social ills in Latin America but I think he went about it the wrong way, and politicians staying in power too long is never a good idea.

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Old 02-18-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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You guys really think Maduro is going to give up this easily? I really wish he would resign and allow a truly free and fair election but tyrannical madmen like him never go easily. Look at the Castro brothers, Daniel Ortega, etc.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Canada
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No, I dont think Maduro will go easy, truth is despite all the problems he still has considerable support. But I think the Pacific Alliance, if it is succesful can change things in the area. People will want to be closer to a movement like that. It will be a good influence to the region.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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In Brazil the most educated people are waiting for a derrote of the "workers party" this year and a change from de derroted Mercosul this this new alliance.
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Brasilia
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In Brazil the most educated people are waiting for a derrote of the "workers party" this year and a change from de derroted Mercosul this this new alliance.
Most educated people?...I'm part of your ''most educated people'' as you call it and I'll vote for PT. Just in case I suggest you to take a look in the polls. Black Blocs is not a political party. Black Blocs will not win the ellections. Sorry.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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An educated person voting for PT?
Very funny joke!
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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You guys really think Maduro is going to give up this easily? I really wish he would resign and allow a truly free and fair election but tyrannical madmen like him never go easily. Look at the Castro brothers, Daniel Ortega, etc.
Maduro will step down, just not easily.

I don't think the Castro ordeal is even comparable, considering that the Cuban population has never protested like the Venezuelans are protesting right now.

Earlier today in Venezuela (in English):





There are rumors that various government officials are asking for the opposition leader currently under arrest to be executed.
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