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Old 04-23-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA
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Not many Europeans or Anglo citizens want to step back decades in time and immigrate to those countries. Chile is the most developed country in South America, that might be why it receives more immigrants.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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Santiago (normal non-business street):

Lima (normal non-business street):
I don't think you have visited Santiago. Below you will see what is a normal non-business street in Santiago. Still better than Lima, but not like the picture you posted, which is from an rich area.

Remember, Chile is still a country with a GDP per capita of 18K, while Italy has 30K. And there are plenty of ugly places in Italy too.


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Old 04-23-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That doesn't look so bad.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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That doesn't look so bad.
Yep, it doesn't look so bad. That is also why many people see Chile as the most successful country in South America.

But we got to be realistic, the whole Santiago do not look like this. Rich areas in Santiago look like this.

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Old 04-23-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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The global mail article suggested Chile and Brazil.... but if Argentina is currently not on the list it must be because of the economic turmoil over there. I'm sure it'll be back to normal once you change miss Kirchner for a more adept leader.
Well, that's just an article focused on certain situation, but what do figures say?
Even though some figures regarding demographics coming from this part of the world are often questioned and criticized (I myself am suspicious on some numbers), it's what we have...

This is a link with stats from the UN:
International Migration and Development

As we are talking about 'current' immigration I'd use the shortest period estimated, 2010->2013

Immigrants in Argentina
2010: 1 805 957
2013: 1 885 678
Difference: +79 721

Immigrants in Chile
2010: 369 436
2013: 398 251
Difference: +28 815

Immigrants in Brazil
2010: 592 568
2013: 599 678
Difference: +7 110

Maybe in the near future the tendency will reverse, and as I said before, Argentina is not necessarily the best country in the region for immigration, for reasons you have already pointed out, among others.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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Sorry, for getting all riled up, anyways I want to point out that there are tens of thousands of Chilean citizens who cross the border to Peru, Tacna on a daily basis, for shopping and specially for heath services. Tacna has been growing while the Chilean counterpart cities have been shrinking. Many Chileans travel 10 to 20 hours to Tacna for those purposes.


Chilenos "locos" por Tacna (Dom 26 Enero 2014) - YouTube


In Addition Peru does have lots of many permanent immigrants see below.
Mayoría de residentes extranjeros en Perú proviene de China | Actualidad | Peru21.pe
These are the number of immigrants to Peru for 2013:
China 9,222
Colombia 8,049
USA 7,715
Then Spanish, Argentinians, Chileans and Brasilians.

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Old 04-23-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Miami Springs, Florida
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That doesn't look so bad.
LOL it looks like Downtown LA
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Miami Springs, Florida
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Sorry, for getting all riled up, anyways I want to point out that there are tens of thousands of Chilean citizens who cross the border to Peru, Tacna on a daily basis, for shopping and specially for heath services. Tacna has been growing while the Chilean counterpart cities have been shrinking. Many Chileans travel 10 to 20 hours to Tacna for those purposes.


Chilenos "locos" por Tacna (Dom 26 Enero 2014) - YouTube


In Addition Peru does have lots of many permanent immigrants see below.
Mayoría de residentes extranjeros en Perú proviene de China | Actualidad | Peru21.pe
These are the number of immigrants to Peru for 2013:
China 9,222
Colombia 8,049
USA 7,715
Then Spanish, Argentinians, Chileans and Brasilians.
But that's obvious considering that their city (Arica) borders another city which is in a poorer country. It's exactly the same case of Californians going to Tijuana to buy cheaper food and stuff.

That case doesn't have any relation to the massive low-skilled peruvian immigration to Chile.
What are you trying to prove?
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Old 04-23-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Thats a pretty cool video. I like those indepth videos about specific places in Latin America, I specially like the part about the food!! Peruvian food is awesome. If you know of more videos like that please post them up.


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Old 04-23-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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Yep, it doesn't look so bad. That is also why many people see Chile as the most successful country in South America.

But we got to be realistic, the whole Santiago do not look like this. Rich areas in Santiago look like this.
that pic isn't of the financial, wealthy districts...
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