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Old 06-09-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I have been searching online for ethnic based intelligence studies in Latin America to see if the same gap that exists in the USA also exist down there and what changes it has experienced with time. Up to now I haven't been able to find anything remotely similar and I would like to know if someone here has access to any similar studies. If so, please share them here. Thanks

As a guideline, the type of studies I'm looking for should be similar to these:

Asian Americans are #1 on the SAT

Latino Students Improving at Reading, Writing SAT Scores



SAT Scores Fall as Gap Widens; Asians Gain

College Board 'Concerned' About Low SAT Scores

The Test Score Gap

The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education: Why Family Income Differences Don't Explain the Racial Gap in SAT

The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education: The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test


I know there are no standard SAT type test in all Latin American countries, but maybe some other similar tests are done on the national level in a few them. Perhaps the many military institutions test the intelligence level of people wishing to join their ranks, as is often done in the US Military.

In the USA, SAT scores are used for college admissions and their scores correlate positively with other measures of intelligence, at least according to some people.

Please don't cite books such as The Bell Curve or one of those highly controversial ones.

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Old 06-09-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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Interesting question.

Random...how in the world does the Hispanic group not include Mexicans-Americans (the largest Hispanic group in the U.S.) or Puerto Ricans?

Are there any accurate, inclusive SAT graphs?
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Buena Park, Orange County, California
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Going a little astray here...

...but (taking this as a grain of salt), we've gotten better at math, but worse at critical reading. Essentially, we are turning into drones.

Back to the topic though, it would be interesting if they could divide the Hispanic population into first generation (recently immigrated) and second, third generation and so on to see whether Hispanic students are improving academically several generations in.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:08 AM
 
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^^^It would be interesting if they would do that for each immigrant group and their descendants...
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Buena Park, Orange County, California
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Interesting question.

Random...how in the world does the Hispanic group not include Mexicans-Americans (the largest Hispanic group in the U.S.) or Puerto Ricans?

Are there any accurate, inclusive SAT graphs?
Just noticed that. Why show the Hispanic scores at all in that case? haha. Mexicans and Puerto Ricans make up the largest, both in total number and percentage, groups of Hispanics in the nation. Excluding them makes the comparison worthless, unless you are examining only a particular group, like Cubans.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Just noticed that. Why put show the Hispanic scores at all in that case? haha. Mexicans and Puerto Ricans make up the largest, both in total number and percentage, groups of Hispanics in the nation. Excluding them makes the comparison worthless, unless you are examining only a particular group, like Cubans.
Exactly...how strange. LOL.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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My understanding is SAT scores for Mexicans and Puerto Ricans have been tracked separately for some time, which is why they aren't included in this average. As to why they weren't included in the chart, probably due to stupidity on the part of the newspaper.

Ron Unz has written on the matter, and concluded there is no evidence of a "racial gap" and the difference is due to differing development levels. That said, he's considered somewhat tarnished by many, because he's a conservative who formerly embraced some pretty extreme groups (like VDARE) but has since developed a more nuanced opinion on race issues. Personally I find his viewpoints more compelling since he's someone who used to consider himself part of a group with the likes of Steve Sailer and Charles Murray, but ultimately broke with their consensus.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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That's all great, but not quite what I'm looking for.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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Why are Mexican-American and Puerto Rican SAT scores tracked seperately?
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:55 AM
 
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In Latin American it would considered "Very offensive" to do an intelligence study based on race.
Keep in mind that most hispanic families are mixed and you would be telling people that cousin X is smarter than cousin Y because people from cousin X's race are smarter.

Does it sound dumb?
It is, because they are cousins, same blood, just different color of skin
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