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Old 09-14-2014, 03:52 AM
 
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This is the way a crazy black Cuban intoxicated by Anglosaxon racism sees white Miami Cubans. Black Cubans/Hispanics are not treated by Hispanics as non-Hispanic blacks at all. Black Cubans are cultured, friendly and NOT DANGEROUS. Of course there are several accounts of bigotry, there are white bigots and black bigots everywhere.

But again, better forget about trying to bring black Cubans into your fold, they have nothing to do with black Jamaicans or with "Caribbeans" except with Hispanic Caribbeans (and not much). Cuba might be 90 km. away from Jamaica, but 20.000 km. away in everything else.

Black Cubans are gentle, cultured and friendly people, and they are Cuban. They are not dangerous, they don't attack anybody, and Cuba is not a dangerous country like Jamaica.

Any cultural influence brought by slaves is now Cuban and shared by all Cubans, not "African". I don't know why blacks from former English colonies claim to be Africans, they are not and their culture is entirely British.

 
Old 09-15-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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Old 09-15-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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This is the way a crazy black Cuban intoxicated by Anglosaxon racism sees white Miami Cubans. Black Cubans/Hispanics are not treated by Hispanics as non-Hispanic blacks at all. Black Cubans are cultured, friendly and NOT DANGEROUS. Of course there are several accounts of bigotry, there are white bigots and black bigots everywhere.

But again, better forget about trying to bring black Cubans into your fold, they have nothing to do with black Jamaicans or with "Caribbeans" except with Hispanic Caribbeans (and not much). Cuba might be 90 km. away from Jamaica, but 20.000 km. away in everything else.

Black Cubans are gentle, cultured and friendly people, and they are Cuban. They are not dangerous, they don't attack anybody, and Cuba is not a dangerous country like Jamaica.

Any cultural influence brought by slaves is now Cuban and shared by all Cubans, not "African". I don't know why blacks from former English colonies claim to be Africans, they are not and their culture is entirely British.
I am amazed at how someone with such nasty stereotypical negative views of black people claims to know everything about them.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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This is the way a crazy black Cuban intoxicated by Anglosaxon racism sees white Miami Cubans. Black Cubans/Hispanics are not treated by Hispanics as non-Hispanic blacks at all. Black Cubans are cultured, friendly and NOT DANGEROUS. Of course there are several accounts of bigotry, there are white bigots and black bigots everywhere.

But again, better forget about trying to bring black Cubans into your fold, they have nothing to do with black Jamaicans or with "Caribbeans" except with Hispanic Caribbeans (and not much). Cuba might be 90 km. away from Jamaica, but 20.000 km. away in everything else.

Black Cubans are gentle, cultured and friendly people, and they are Cuban. They are not dangerous, they don't attack anybody, and Cuba is not a dangerous country like Jamaica.

Any cultural influence brought by slaves is now Cuban and shared by all Cubans, not "African". I don't know why blacks from former English colonies claim to be Africans, they are not and their culture is entirely British.
The bold sounds extremely unexposed. Are you even familiar at all with the various cultural influences in the non-Spanish speaking Caribbean? A number of the former English colonies speak Kreyol due to the French influence and other aspects of their cultures reflect the same. Not to mention the South Asian (East Indian) influences, Chinese influences, Amerindian presence in places such as Dominica and St. Vincent. Even the influence of the Spanish in certain places. The heritages of the people are certainly recognized and celebrated, most certainly including the African, as that is what makes the nations what they are today.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:40 PM
 
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. Of course there are several accounts of bigotry, there are white bigots and black bigots everywhere.


Any cultural influence brought by slaves is now Cuban and shared by all Cubans, not "African". I don't know why blacks from former English colonies claim to be Africans, they are not and their culture is entirely British.

OK so if a cultural influence comes from Spain it is Spanish. But if a cultural influence comes from Africa it isn't African?


What is your thinking behind it, because you are the one who says that Cubans speak exactly like people from Tenerife. You didn't say that it isn't Spanish because of your claim that all Cubans speak alike.

Then you proceeded to credit all black Cuban culture to a WHITE Cuban! Yes all of those African influences on the food, music, dance, religion, mannerisms, and yes speech of Cubans, all created by ONE white man!

If Cuban blacks have encountered bigotry then you think that if they passively accept it, and don't react to it, this is a good thing? And if they doreact against it they are becoming Anglo Saxon racists?

OOOOH........another white Cuban who thinks that Cuban blacks are children so can't speak for themselves!
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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I am amazed at how someone with such nasty stereotypical negative views of black people claims to know everything about them.

All because they image that "their negroes are simple and smiling children who love being treated as inferiors".

Miserere Lucario is part Cuban. Learn something from him.

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Old 09-16-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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The only black african people in Argentina are immigrants ( and very recent ) from Nigeria, Angola and Namibia. Many of them speak terrible spanish and make a living by selling things on the street. In Argentina as well as Chile, these are the only blacks you see. There was never any african influence nor slavery practiced here.
Uruguay is different. You see quite a few blacks there, also on the border regions of Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina they speak a local dialect of a mix of spanish, portuguese and native american words and lots of the folks up in that area have african ancestry. I cant remember what they call this local dialect, but in all 3 countries in that border area, all of the locals speak it.
lol... Yeah because they did a good job of killing the black population. The rest of the black population was mixed into the local population.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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[quote=caribny;36512227]OK so if a cultural influence comes from Spain it is Spanish. But if a cultural influence comes from Africa it isn't African?

Cuban, I said Cuban


What is your thinking behind it, because you are the one who says that Cubans speak exactly like people from Tenerife. You didn't say that it isn't Spanish because of your claim that all Cubans speak alike.

Not exactly, Cuban is a dialect of Canarian

Then you proceeded to credit all black Cuban culture to a WHITE Cuban! Yes all of those African influences on the food, music, dance, religion, mannerisms, and yes speech of Cubans, all created by ONE white man!

Yes, all Afroethnic Cuban culture was recollected by Fernando Ortiz

If Cuban blacks have encountered bigotry then you think that if they passively accept it, and don't react to it, this is a good thing? And if they doreact against it they are becoming Anglo Saxon racists?

Anglo Saxon racists base all their existance in racism, so for them racism of evil whites is the beginning and the end.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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lol... Yeah because they did a good job of killing the black population. The rest of the black population was mixed into the local population.
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