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Old 12-10-2014, 06:19 AM
 
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For the longest, I was of the belief that Cuba was immune to a number of social ills due to a perception of communist protection, but a lot of problems you see all throughout Latin America can be found in Cuba. There's just no press or communication for US acknowledgement.




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Old 12-10-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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A lack of free press hides all sorts of societal problems.
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Old 12-11-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Golly gee, now how about that? The socialist utopia isent such a utopia afterall!
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Old 12-12-2014, 05:26 AM
 
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What drug problems? What drug is that?
Some weed, some cocaine packet that drifts ashore.
Nothing.
But pills... as in all former communists countries many people take too many pills.
CUBANET is sort of the National Enquirer..written in some foreign country.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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Fascinating.
Humans being....... human. Addiction and all.

Cuba is not immune to anything.... humans will be addicts in any country.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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Cuba is probably the worst country to be addicted to anything. I'm not saying that getting addicted is good, but in a country where the average wage in $25 a month (yes, $6 for a week's worth of work) I simply don't see where people get the money to sustain any addiction. Even household items that if abused can produce addiction is problematic in a country where they have shortages and have to ration even the simplest of things.

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Old 12-17-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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Not really, most addicts are to pills that are free or alchohol, very cheap, weed is a local produce and cambolo, cocaine, is not expensive. I mean, there's no crack or drug killings, or drug problem EXCEPT ALCOHOL.

The main drug problem is alcohol, not expensive, ron de bodega less than 2 dollars.

No massive killing like in DR or Mexico, in fact, almost no crime.

There are no restrictions nowdays.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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A lack of free press hides all sorts of societal problems.


Not really, people know what's going on. Drugs are no problem except alcohol. My driver told me there were discos for blacks in south of Havana, Parraga, Vedado Park, Mantilla, in which blacks there are "high" on all sort on substances. I just passed by and it was scaring, but apart from brawls, etc, there are no killings.

The only shots and brawls are in fights to control black market around that area.

Also in Havana, malecón, there are discos that are quite scaring because they are just for blacks, and there are constant physical fights, but no shots or killings, there are no other thing but blacks, not even jineteras visit those places...those places existed before communism, the name of the place was Benny Moré, I believe.

You also have "el jardín de la Tropical", a precommunist place, blacks go there to dance with good bands, almost free...there are some occasional brawl, some shot, but no deaths, very rarely. The same place has a Salón Dorado for tourists and white people, that place is different.

But no, crime and drugs are not an issue in Havana, and even less in the rest of Cuba.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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Not really, people know what's going on.
Not really what? That they don't have a free press? - Yes really, they do not have a free press, they do not have a free and open government. The population always know what's going on, the only difference is they aren't free to complain about it. But no one knows, not you or anyone, the exact extent of crime - because the government will not release crime statistics. That is a fact.

Obviously the Cuban government is very controlling, and civil liberties are few. That has the effect of diminishing crime when you can be jailed for the simplest of offenses compared to an otherwise free society. Gun crimes are few because the difficulty of access, restrictions, and severity is likely much higher then is acceptable in a free society, so are drug crimes (although they still exists). But the point I think to this thread - is that Cuba is not immune to the same social ills of a democratic society, even with the extreme difficulty in accessing drugs.

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Old 12-17-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Not really what? That they don't have a free press? - Yes really, they do not have a free press, they do not have a free and open government. The population always know what's going on, the only difference is they aren't free to complain about it. But no one knows, not you or anyone, the exact extent of crime - because the government will not release crime statistics. That is a fact.
Of course the people know, but not everyone is afraid to say the truth. Here is a Cuban guy in Cuba basically saying that the Castros are responsible for the mess Cuba is in and then he sends them to hell loud and clear. I hope he is still free and alive, because doing this especially on video is a big no no in Cuba.



That's what I call a brave man! I'm quite a brave guy myself, but I don't think I would put my life on the line like that. Good thing I live in a country where I can say the president is no good loud and clear and not have to lose my sleep worrying for my safety or those of family members and friends.
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