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Old 01-16-2015, 05:16 AM
 
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The author is basically saying easing travel restrictions is essentially opening up Cuba for de facto tourism even though the US wants to call it a different name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/16/wo...l-to-cuba.html
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I so want to see Cuba before it becomes Americanized
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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I so want to see Cuba before it becomes Americanized
Is Mexico, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Brazil, or any other developing country in the western hemisphere Americanized?
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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The author is basically saying easing travel restrictions is essentially opening up Cuba for de facto tourism even though the US wants to call it a different name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/16/wo...l-to-cuba.html
It's not de facto just yet. There are just easier loopholes. Instead of going through Canada or Mexico, Americans can just travel in groups directly to Cuba in the name of journalism or culture initiative.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Is Mexico, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Brazil, or any other developing country in the western hemisphere Americanized?
I bet you can find McDonalds in all of them
Mexico has Walmart, HomeDepot, KFC, etc, etc.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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I bet you can find McDonalds in all of them
Mexico has Walmart, HomeDepot, KFC, etc, etc.


Yes, but they aren't Americanized. Adding multi national chains does not make a country become Americanized.
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Yes, but they aren't Americanized. Adding multi national chains does not make a country become Americanized.
I don't get why people are so hung up on this. Having McDonald's does not indicate "Americanization", the term for that is plain ole economics.

If the British fast food chain Wimpy were to open locations in the US does it mean the US would become "Britisher"? Duh, of course not.
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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Is Mexico, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Brazil, or any other developing country in the western hemisphere Americanized?
I was thinking that too. Even Puerto Rico, which is the most Americanized place in Latin America, is distinctly different from the US, especially outside San Juan.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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Is Mexico, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Brazil, or any other developing country in the western hemisphere Americanized?
No, just some of the tourist areas in Mexico(and maybe the tourist areas in Jamaica) have a distinct American imprint(and American fast food but that's in a lot of countries). The major cities outside the border region or tourist beach areas, don't seem to be very Americanized at all though in Mexico. The old colonial cities don't seem to have very much non-Mexican(or non-Spanish) influence at all.

I think the fear with Cuba is that it's so close to Florida and the US has sort of checkered past in terms of influence pre-Castro in the country. But with Raul still in charge it won't change immediately so a lot of things would stay in place for a while, though who knows what will happens years after the Castros pass on.

But I mean, us Canadians and Europeans have been going to Varadero for vacation for years now--it's already a huge tourist destination, so there's already sort of a Cuban Cancun in a way and plenty visit Havana as well.
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Old 01-16-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Yes, but they aren't Americanized. Adding multi national chains does not make a country become Americanized.
It's just part of the America bashing that people like to do. I've heard it for years. "I would love to visit Cuba before the Americans come in and destroy it like the rest of Latin america". As if other country's haven't been able to visit Cuba either. Most of us know that is false.

Just because an American chain opens up and resorts cater to "American" tourists (us evil Americans are the only white tourists who visit thses country's----sarc!!!) does not mean the country is Americanized. It's their country and they have the right to make the decisions on whether to permit American or other foreign company's from opening up there.

I just get sick of everyone blaming us Americans for other country's allowing our company's and chains to open up there. I spent a lot of time in Costa Rica and people say that country is too "Americanized" and that we've destroyed it. BS. So you can get an American style hamburger or USDA steak in assorted places if you want but you can still get rice, beans and a sliver of meat as well. Besides there are plenty of German and Canadian run places and ex-pats living there from those country's as well. But since they are white it's all American "Gringo's" which are opening shop with permission from those country's governments.
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