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Old 03-16-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MrPilot View Post
IF there is a HUGE gap between Portugal and Chile why is Chile ranking above Portugal in HDI?
because HDI measures only 3 things, and one of them is pretty much irrelevant to the real development of a country (years of schooling).

the other two are life expectancy and GNI per capita. Life expectancy in Colombia is 78 years according to WHO (one of the highest in Latin America), but Colombia is far from being developed.

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Originally Posted by Greysholic View Post
And I don't think you can find casas chubi(Chilean equivalent of Brazil's favelas) in Portugal.

I think the Chilean equivalent of favelas are "campamentos". I've been told that there still are some campamentos in the country, especially in northern Chile and in cities like Valparaíso, but they are being eliminated.

I didn't knew about these casas chubi previously, but looking at pictures and reading about them, they seem to be another thing, subsidized housing.

Urbanism is another thing on which there is a huge gap between Portugal and Chile, btw.

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Old 03-16-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Trust me, you don't know what poverty is... I do, I lived with a poor family in Chile for almost a year, so I know what it is and I know at least a little about what the average Chilean lives with and if you think it's a "developed lifestyle" like what one might be used to in Europe or the U.S.

You'd be in for an extremely rude awakening.
Excuse me eric, but I lived close to poor people in the US and they don't have any luxuries either. The AVERAGE Chilean isn't poor, not the way you are describing it anyway. There are slums and there are slums...

Anyway here are some pics...

PORTUGAL:



ITALY:



SOUTH COREA:



SWEDEN:



I could go on...

Based on this, very few countries are completely developed with no poverty and homeless or even shabby houses

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Old 03-16-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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That's not Detroit man, come on...there may be shacks here and there in extremely rural areas or on Indian reservations but poverty does not look like that in depressed US cities...USA does really well with the shiny exterior type of stuff
 
Old 03-16-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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I think that in the 21st century, there is a need to think about new criteria to define what a "developed" country is.

Things like "how many percent of households have a washing machine", so people (usually women in most cases) don't need to spend a lot of time cleaning clothes by hand.

Or "how many percent of households have broadband internet access"

Or "how many percent of houselholds have more than one toilet"


We need new criteria, based on more concrete things like those.
 
Old 03-16-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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I have nothing against Chile and Chileans, but THIS just doesn't look very "developed" to me:

https://www.google.com.br/maps/@-36....g!2e0?hl=pt-BR


This also doesn't look very "developed":

https://www.google.com.br/maps/@-36....Q!2e0?hl=pt-BR


I repeat: nothing personal against Chile or Chileans...
You can see places a lot like this in the United States.
 
Old 03-16-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Originally Posted by Fabio SBA View Post
Twelve years ruled by a socialist party and endless populism caused this to Brazil. We lost all of the opportunities due to the stuborness of Lula da Silva and his party. Nowadays, the world is becoming aware of what Lula and Dilma Rousseff are in fact: two swindlers.
This here is the best answer. Left wing populism is destroying Central and South America, there is no reason for Venezuela to be in the condition it is currently ... except for Chavismo style socialism rooted in anti-Americanism destroying the economy.

Maduro is more interested in picking fights with the "Yanquis" and babbling about make believe CIA plots than improving the lives of the Venezuelan people. Believe me, if we wanted to overthrow Maduro we would have done so by now.
 
Old 03-16-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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What is wrong with Brazil?

How many changes are they going to throw away? New corruptions scandals, high murder rates, bad education, high inequality, inflation, bureaucracy from hell, high taxes... the list goes on.

The world gives Brazil a unique time to change the country with the World Cup, Olympics and other events.... But whats happens... the apple doesn't fall far from the tree... Brazil is the same old ****

How could Chile and South korea make it?

What is in the future for Brazil? Where is Brazil in 2050? Developed?

Any one in here living there and have any good news about the economy or any good news about Brazil?

I heard they have updated the car import agreement with Mexico so it's cheaper to import cars to Brazil for some years but I guess it's still going to be expensive to buy a car in Brazil.
Chile's geography makes sea trade a no brainier as well as pretty much allowing one road to connect the country. Brazil's rivers help replace some infrastructure, but similarly they decrease the impetus to build a network of roads to connect the country leaving vast areas relatively cut off from the coastal cities.

Just a guess.
 
Old 03-16-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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Chile does not, by any definition, qualify as a developed market. A little bit different than being a developed country, but the two go hand-in-hand. However, of the "BRIC" markets, it's really only India and China that are still drawing investor interest, and Chile is often classified as a sort of "next-generation" BRIC country. Investors tend to see it as having more potential then Brazil these days, but it still classified as an "emerging" market rather than a "developed" market.

If you wanted the investment perspective, that is.
 
Old 03-16-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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This video gives you a good idea why Brazil didnt make it:

 
Old 03-16-2015, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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USA also has tons of poor looking parts, as with any big country. Use the Google Street View in Mississippi or most of Louisiana, you'll see things just as bad
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