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San Blas gets a lot of tourists so the Guna might be more entrepreneurial. The Embera I don't know much about except for the friendly Embera girl I ran into at the Yaviza bus station. The Embera live closer to the Darien Gap.
It is called Guna Yala and yes, it does get a great deal of tourists. The Embera-Wounam Indians live mostly in the Darien area, they don´t live closer to the Darien Gap, they live at the Darien Gap. There are some others (very few) who have moved to the cities or to places close to the cities because they are looking for better education for their children and better opportunities, like for example, in the Gatun lake and in the Alajuela lake, there are several small settlements of them, but not as big as the one in the Darien Gap
It is called Guna Yala and yes, it does get a great deal of tourists. The Embera-Wounam Indians live mostly in the Darien area, they don´t live closer to the Darien Gap, they live at the Darien Gap. There are some others (very few) who have moved to the cities or to places close to the cities because they are looking for better education for their children and better opportunities, like for example, in the Gatun lake and in the Alajuela lake, there are several small settlements of them, but not as big as the one in the Darien Gap
It's best to not develop the Darien, then, just leave it as a slice of paradise.
Panama doesn't want that connection with Colombia. Add to that the immense sections of that land that is in the hands of Native American groups with a tendency to oppose any type of Western development and you have a very tough sell.
I don't blame them.
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Now that FARC is no longer a problem in Colombia due to the peace treaty.
Uribe ughhh. I can't stand him. My father actually went to college with Uribe and knows him well LOL My socialist father can't stand his politics. Uribe does not represent every Colombian. Many people there care for the environment and biodiversity.
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[quote=Pueblofuerte;44571245]This is the Chocoan rainforest which encompasses the Darien Gap, why would you want to spoil this natural paradise with roads. Leave it be.
We pretend? Hahaha, yes, we are a little pretentious country which is better than your big full of problems country.
actually Panama is worse off in many aspects than Colombia, despite of being richer, smaller, growing much faster and not having a civil war going on. Your scholar system is worse than ours (see PISA scores 2009 and Terce scores 2014); the % of Panamanians that don't have access to electricity or improved sanitation facilities is lower than that of Colombia; your maternal mortality rate is higher than ours, as well as your infant mortality rate (data is the World Bank). And that were just a few examples I came up with.
See the TERCE results:
Not only you are behind Colombia, but also behind Peru, Ecuador and most of Latin America.
but whatever, that's not even the point of the discussion.
Uribe spoke once about it for 30 seconds. So what? Politicians say a lot of stupid **** in public that never gets anywhere. Some politicians here have proposed a lot of stupid things, like giving electroshocks to students, forbidding reggaeton or whatever. Guess what?, nobody cared.
There was never an official project or anything remotely similar by the Colombian government proposing to build a road there. We are developing the "Fourth Generation Road Concessions Program", building thousands of kilometers of roads and motorways, investing dozens of millions of dollars, and a road through the Darien was never considered in such context. And what is more important, Colombian public opinion overwhelmingly opposes to it.
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Panamanians are the ones who have to vote whether we want to open the Darien Gap or not
See, that's exactly what I'm saying. It is not your decision, it has many political, economical, environmental implications for Colombia, for obvious reasons. Anything you decide to do there affects us and the population living there.
And most of the area of the Darien is in Colombian territory.
I thought the Amazon rainforest is the most biodiverse place on Earth and there are numerous highways going through there.
there aren't roads crossing it. most roads are at the boundaries of the jungle, especially in some states of Brazil (because of agroindustry, mostly), and it has affected the Amazon negatively, of course.
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See, that's exactly what I'm saying. It is not your decision, it has many political, economical, environmental implications for Colombia, for obvious reasons. Anything you decide to do there affects us and the population living there.
