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The second video revolves around Argentinians not understanding Chileans. That in itself is a distinct difference. You won't find a Colombian llanero not understanding a Venezuelan llanero or someone from Barranquilla not understanding someone from Maracaibo even with slang terms.
You partially proved my point.
If Peru was on equal pairing in development with Argentina or Chile there would be a different perception.
The Cono-Sur family does exist as a socio-economic group as well as a geographic group but less as a cultural group.
It's like saying Meso-America (Mexico-Central America and Northern South America).
The second video revolves around Argentinians not understanding Chileans. That in itself is a distinct difference. You won't find a Colombian llanero not understanding a Venezuelan llanero or someone from Barranquilla not understanding someone from Maracaibo even with slang terms.
You partially proved my point.
If Peru was on equal pairing in development with Argentina or Chile there would be a different perception.
The Cono-Sur family does exist as a socio-economic group as well as a geographic group but less as a cultural group.
It's like saying Meso-America (Mexico-Central America and Northern South America).
That's because the Chilenismos as they call them are distinct to only Chile and there is no comparison. The point is that they have the same manner of speaking but just have different slang for the same terms. The way of speaking, banter and jokes are similar as evidenced in the first video with two drunk huaso/gauchos.
Peru can be as developed as it wants. It's culture is very steeped in Amerindian culture, it's manner of speaking is way more reserved and direct. Find me one video where you can compare the two countries in the same way I just did with Argentina and Chile. They're not like Venezuela and Colombia but that is because Chile is so distinct as a country on it's own. BUT the only comparable country is Argentina, with maybe Peru coming in a distant second.
This is not even much of a debate you're just clearly not as knowledgeable of the two countries.
Hehehehe Gepe gave some street cred to Wendy Sulca... tetica tetica quiero tetica
PS: Cuba is much more alike DR and PR than Chile is to Argentina. To be honest they're pretty apart in my opinion. Maybe something like the difference between Mexico and Colombia, there's shared elements but still extremely distinct.
Lol, I know he's been criticized, but I like everything Gepe does.
I know this but the pop culture of Argentina was so prevalent there that it influences the pop culture in Chile too. When you watch both Chilean and Argentinean television, I notice more similarities in their pop culture than I would say with Chile and Peru. I mean why the insistence to admit that they're so different? They are but then by your measure so is every Latin American country and this thread would be entirely pointless. Someone earlier pointed out how much more Andean Colombia is to Venezuela which is true but also that there is no question the two countries are still similar. Same with Chile and Argentina. They're right next to each other! LOL. How can they be THAT different? They share a really LONG border. You're telling me there is no co-mingling? C'mon. They're not night and day different.
Ok you are taking these things way too seriously. Lol it's just an opinion. I never said there was no co-mingling or that there were extreme differences.
Argentine pop culture/music/literature/fashion has influenced alot of Latin American countries.
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I think the one that's insisting on the similarities of Argentina and Chile is you radio. Every other person in this thread has a different opinion to you me included. I see them as quite distinct from each other. Argentinian rock influenced the whole of the Spanish speaking world.
As I said the difference in my opinion is like Mexico and Colombia. Colombians love and have been heavily influenced by Mexican folk and vice versa.
Mendoza and other cities like Neuquen are a separate case due to their closeness to the Chilean border.
Lol when I was younger, I used to think alot of Colombian music was Mexican because I heard it so much at home and at parties. Especially La Pollera Colora.
I was also watching La Voz Kids Colombia once and was so surprised to see tons of little Colombian kids singing very traditional rancheras! They sang them so well too.
Ok you are taking these things way too seriously. Lol it's just an opinion. I never said there was no co-mingling or that there were extreme differences.
Argentine pop culture/music/literature/fashion has influenced alot of Latin American countries.
No worries. I used to think that Argentina culture was only the culture of Buenos Aires and that all Argentines looked like Messi and spoke in a RioPlatenese exaggerated manner. This was far from the case. When I visited Mendoza and my short stint in Buenos Aires I noticed that they all didn't speak that way, many looked typical "Andean" and many sounded somewhat like Chileans only with different slang and used the j sound in playa.
The differences are there and they may be more than the Caribbean countries but I do think there is a Southern Cone culture too that overlaps all three countries. It may not be big but it;s there.
No worries. I used to think that Argentina culture was only the culture of Buenos Aires and that all Argentines looked like Messi and spoke in a RioPlatenese exaggerated manner. This was far from the case. When I visited Mendoza and my short stint in Buenos Aires I noticed that they all didn't speak that way, many looked typical "Andean" and many sounded somewhat like Chileans only with different slang and used the j sound in playa.
The differences are there and they may be more than the Caribbean countries but I do think there is a Southern Cone culture too that overlaps all three countries. It may not be big but it;s there.
Oh yeah, there is definitely a southern cone culture.
Do some people really believe Colombia and Venezuela are similar on the same note as Argentina and Uruguay? At least the Rio de la Plata area?
They need to pay a visit to these countries to see the big differences between cities like Caracas/Maracaibo and Bogota/Medellin. Really.
The Argentina/Uruguay relation is unique and I agree this is the most reasonable pairing similarity-wise. Unlike some other pairings some people are trying to draw here, Argentinians and Uruguayans actually agree on their similarity.
Do some people really believe Colombia and Venezuela are similar on the same note as Argentina and Uruguay? At least the Rio de la Plata area?
They need to pay a visit to these countries to see the big differences between cities like Caracas/Maracaibo and Bogota/Medellin. Really.
Yes, yes we all know you're an estrato 5 toff from la castellana or prado barrio in some Colombian coastal city.
No-one is saying that the Venezuela-Colombia similarity is anywhere near the Argentina-Uruguay relationship but Venezuela and Colombia both have a Llanero region, both have a Wayuu "nation", both have a Caribbean region, people from Pamplona helped to colonize the Venezuelan Andes for goodness sake. Even the cities look similar with brick towers a prominent feature in many, the food is very similar (Arepas, Hallacas/tamales), Caracas is as salsa crazy as Cali and let's not forget around 3 million Colombians and their descendants live in Venezuela, around 10% of the population.
Yes Bogota and Caracas are chalk and cheese but the rest of the country not so much unless you're heading to the more south-western parts of Colombia.
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