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Old 09-23-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I haven't met many Brazilians here in Canada. The Portuguese community probably numbers in the hundreds of thousands.
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Old 09-26-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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I am Portuguese-American(which is different than an American of Portuguese descent).
What is the difference?
Do you speak Portuguese?
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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The largest number of South Americans come from Colombia with a population of around 360,000 which includes dual citizens, and then the numbers sharply drop, there are for example only 26,000 Paraguayans in the US, less than 100,000 Argentines.

Is it that difficult to migrate from South America to the US? Does the US government make it more difficult? Or there has never really been a historic trend of migrants from South America into the US?
First of all the idea that South America is closer is somewhat questionable

JFK to
LHR 3,451 mi London UK
FCO 4,277 mi Rome Italy
ATH 4,941 mi Athens Greece
EZE 5,282 mi Buenos Aires Argentina

Argentina was the richest country in the world on a per capita basis before WWII. The wealthy are much less inclined to immigrate. Once Argentina was no longer rich, the fertility rate was greatly reduced. Much of Argentina's emigration is back to the countries of the grandparents (Italy and Spain).
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:13 AM
 
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Small quantity of Brazilians abroad if we think the country have more than 200 millions of people. Less people than tiny countries like Colombia or Peru or micro countries like Guyana. Really surprise literally half Guyanese people are in Canada and USA.
Colombia and Peru aren't tiny, Colombia has 50M people, it'd be the 6th most populous country in Europe. Peru has 30M, which is a medium sized country. Also, don't try to come for me because my country nearly 7 times larger than Brazil, which is actually smaller than the gap between Brazil, Colombia (x4), and Peru (x6)

I would rank countries like this:

750M - 1.5B: Tier 1 (Continent-Size)
250M - 750M: Tier 2 (Huge)
100M - 250M: Tier 3 (Large)
50M - 100M: Tier 4 (Medium-Large)
10M - 50M: Tier 5 (Medium)
1M - 10M: Tier 6 (Small)
Less than 1M: Tier 7 (Tiny)

Top 12

Mexican: 31,798,258
Puerto Rican: 4,623,716
Cuban: 1,785,547
Salvadorean: 1,648,968
Dominican: 1,414,703
Guatemalan: 1,044,209
Colombian: 908,734
Spaniard: 635,253
Honduran: 633,401
Ecuadorean: 564,631
Peruvian: 556,386
Nicaraguan: 395,376

Top 12 with illegal immigrants and foreign-born nationals

Mexico: 35.7M
Puerto Rican: 5.3M
Colombia: 3.5M
Cuban: 2.5M
Salvadoran: 2.3M
Dominican: 1.8M
Guatemalan: 1.3M +38k
Brazilian: 1.1M
Honduran: .8M
Spaniard: .7M
Venezuelan: .6M
Peruvian: .6M

My observations from this data:

- South American growth is accelerating rapidly
- Mexican growth is decreasing
- Central American growth is accelerating
- Puerto Rican economic crisis is making Puerto Ricans leave in large numbers
- The Venezuelan exodus has not yet affected the US, I think they will surpass Brazil as the 2nd largest South American group in the US soon.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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A lot of Argentinean people don't really want to go to the United States. Most of them would rather go back to Italy or Germany because that's where their roots are
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:20 AM
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What is the difference?
Do you speak Portuguese?
An American of Portuguese ancestry is culturally "American"(USA) with ancestors from Portugal and generally doesn't speak much Portuguese and typically retains minimal if any Portuguese culture(usually 3rd generation or beyond but most 2nd generation immigrants also). A Portuguese-American is a fusion of two cultures and has strong cultural ties with Portuguese culture and speaks Portuguese(first generation for sure many 1.5 generation which are those that arrived as children or adolescents, and some second generation). It is crammed down immigrants throat that "you need to fit in" and people complain constantly that immigrants aren't assimilating.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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^ Tom Hanks would an example of an American of Portuguese ancestry (from the Azores):

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Tom is the son of Janet Marylyn (Frager) and Amos Mefford Hanks. Tom’s father was of mostly English, some Cornish, and more distant German, ancestry. Tom’s mother was of entirely Portuguese ancestry, from the Azores Islands. A picture of Tom’s father can be seen here. A picture of Tom’s mother can be seen here.
Tom Hanks
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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I was recently browsing through a very reliable website that shows migration patterns in the US. The US department of state divides the world by regions

-Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean
-South America
-Africa
-Middle East
-Europe
-Ex-Soviet Republics
-East Asia
-South Asia
-Oceania

U.S. Immigration Trends | migrationpolicy.org

To my surprise only 6% of the immigrants in the US come from South America. There are far more Europeans, Asians, South Asians, Middle Easterners and of course Central Americans/Mexicans in the United States than people from the South American countries.

The largest number of South Americans come from Colombia with a population of around 360,000 which includes dual citizens, and then the numbers sharply drop, there are for example only 26,000 Paraguayans in the US, less than 100,000 Argentines.

Is it that difficult to migrate from South America to the US? Does the US government make it more difficult? Or there has never really been a historic trend of migrants from South America into the US?
South America has a relatively small population compared to Asia, Africa, and Europe.
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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An American of Portuguese ancestry is culturally "American"(USA) with ancestors from Portugal and generally doesn't speak much Portuguese and typically retains minimal if any Portuguese culture(usually 3rd generation or beyond but most 2nd generation immigrants also). A Portuguese-American is a fusion of two cultures and has strong cultural ties with Portuguese culture and speaks Portuguese(first generation for sure many 1.5 generation which are those that arrived as children or adolescents, and some second generation). It is crammed down immigrants throat that "you need to fit in" and people complain constantly that immigrants aren't assimilating.


I have never understood this mentality, you are generally a more well rounded person and a better citizen when you know all parts of yourself.
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Old 09-29-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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A lot of Argentinean people don't really want to go to the United States. Most of them would rather go back to Italy or Germany because that's where their roots are
And because of that, they can take citizenship easier in these countries.
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