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Old 10-14-2017, 02:13 AM
 
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I'm not in the U.S., but has there become an interested interest in Cuba? More shows going to cover it, or more tourist agencies promoting it?

Or is it still kind of a pariah of past political slandering, and a bit of a 'lefties only', 'no true red white blue' type would want to step in the borders?
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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Americans go once to never return. Problem is that it's a very tough destination, not for everybody. Socialist economy, can't compete on equal terms with cheaper destinations.

All that political bias favours tourism, but the country is a communist country....not Hollywood!!
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:20 PM
 
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Americans go once to never return. Problem is that it's a very tough destination, not for everybody. Socialist economy, can't compete on equal terms with cheaper destinations.

All that political bias favours tourism, but the country is a communist country....not Hollywood!!
The brainwashing has been incredibly thick with this one.
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Old 10-15-2017, 04:31 AM
 
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It is very difficult for Americans to go to Cuba directly because (1) it requires Treasury Department approval (there's an embargo btwn the countries) unless it is under a special category and (2) there's a language barrier (English vs Spanish) for most ordinary Americans. So it is easier for a crew for a documentary, movie, TV show, etc. to go down there and do an investigate piece from a cultural/historic perspective than it is a normal American citizen to visit the island for tourism (Reason #1).

Even if there are bypasses between the two countries (which there is from a number of different countries), it would still be difficult for most Americans because of the language barrier (Reason #2). While there has been documentaries/TV shows from American journalism and media in Cuba in recent years please remember that under the Obama Administration. The current administration will probably not be so lenient in granting waivers and/or permission for Americans to travel to Cuba based on the diplomatic handlings of this administration when dealing with other foreign countries so far.

Depending on who you talk to and what circles there are in they may be some increased interest but the ability to get there will require some maneuvers.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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The brainwashing has been incredibly thick with this one.


But also positive brainwashing by Hollywood, progressive academia, etc.

But the problem is that the destination is tough, so interested people, mythomaniacs, progressives, etc, go once, but never return.

Plus, they are handling bad their mythomaniac legacy...
You can't place Obama and the American flag along the Malecon, that goes against legacy.

There's no language barrier at all.

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Old 10-15-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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It is very difficult for Americans to go to Cuba directly because (1) it requires Treasury Department approval (there's an embargo btwn the countries) unless it is under a special category and (2) there's a language barrier (English vs Spanish) for most ordinary Americans. So it is easier for a crew for a documentary, movie, TV show, etc. to go down there and do an investigate piece from a cultural/historic perspective than it is a normal American citizen to visit the island for tourism (Reason #1).

Even if there are bypasses between the two countries (which there is from a number of different countries), it would still be difficult for most Americans because of the language barrier (Reason #2). While there has been documentaries/TV shows from American journalism and media in Cuba in recent years please remember that under the Obama Administration. The current administration will probably not be so lenient in granting waivers and/or permission for Americans to travel to Cuba based on the diplomatic handlings of this administration when dealing with other foreign countries so far.

Depending on who you talk to and what circles there are in they may be some increased interest but the ability to get there will require some maneuvers.
Ah, okay. That seems consistent with the fact that I'm not seeing many international flights from the U.S. to Cuba.

Not living in the U.S., it feels like a message of the doors have been opened under Obama. But I didn't realize it was under Treasury Department approval only, etc. So those were just under special circumstances, etc.

Looks like I don't have to worry about trying to get there soon, before it's all changed. Looks like Cuba won't change for at least 4 if not 8 years, or more.
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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You can visit the place 20 years from now and everything wil remain the same. There are many flights, charters, some regular airlines such as American, etc. Americans fly from Toronto, Nassau, Cancun, etc.
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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The brainwashing has been incredibly thick with this one.
Cuba has a very very well established tourism industry. At least for Canadians it is the cheapest vacation option. There re lots of things to see off the resorts. Not sure if Americans are getting charged a lot more to go.....but Cuba for Canadians is cheap.

I have been to far worst pls rd as a tourist.

As a tourist Cuba did not seem tough at all. It was easy. Airport... picked up by resort ..... tours sold by the hotel to visit other areas of the Island ...

It is really basic.

I know people who go without a resort package and next to never have problems.

Not sure what is so tough about that?
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Cuba has a very very well established tourism industry. At least for Canadians it is the cheapest vacation option. There re lots of things to see off the resorts. Not sure if Americans are getting charged a lot more to go.....but Cuba for Canadians is cheap.

I have been to far worst pls rd as a tourist.

As a tourist Cuba did not seem tough at all. It was easy. Airport... picked up by resort ..... tours sold by the hotel to visit other areas of the Island ...

It is really basic.

I know people who go without a resort package and next to never have problems.

Not sure what is so tough about that?
I think you are referring to the other poster, right?

I'm thrown off by my id name being quoted, but I think your intention was for the poster, farinello.

My brainwashing comment was because he seemed so scared of Cuba, without seeming to know anything about Cuba.
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:32 AM
 
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I'm not scared of Cuba at all, in fact, I visit the country at least once a year.
What I was telling you is that the country is a tough destination if you want to flee from the normal circuits, away for all inclusive resorts.
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