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Old 09-26-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Together, Arabic, Chinese, English, Spanish, and Hindi are the most spoken languages in the world. Someone who mastered 3 or 4 of these would be able to converse with, like, 80% of the world's population.

 
Old 09-26-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Indeed, these audios aren't that easy to fully understand to me.
out of curiosity, you were born and raised where? and for how long?
 
Old 09-26-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Together, Arabic, Chinese, English, Spanish, and Hindi are the most spoken languages in the world. Someone who mastered 3 or 4 of these would be able to converse with, like, 80% of the world's population.
All those languages are useful here in Canada except Spanish.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Indeed, these audios aren't that easy to fully understand to me.
A lot of native Spanish speakers can't understand every word of it due to poor audio quality, so I'm not sure it's that great a barometer in terms of a black or white measurement of whether someone is a native (or even competent) Spanish speaker.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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out of curiosity, you were born and raised where? and for how long?
Born and raised in Argentina, son of Argentinian parents. I’ve lived all my life in Buenos Aires (in four different neighborhoods, though), and my username reveals the year of my birth.

Nothing really special about my life. I don’t know why I wouldn’t be believable as a native Spanish speaker, and I don’t think my English is that good. I started studying it seriously after secondary school, as the level of the English lessons was quite low at school.

What about you? American from a Hispanic American background? Neomexicano maybe?
 
Old 09-26-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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I don’t know why I wouldn’t be believable as a native Spanish speaker, and I don’t think my English is that good.
Then I find it very suprising that you struggle to understand these clips. You seemed to be making a lot of odd excuses why you couldn't understand it: the "connectors are weird" (whatever that means); the language is "uneducated" (in which case it should be easier for you to understand); and then posting your weird interpretations of what is, essentially very easy for any spanish speaker to understand. All this indicates that you either: (a) don't understand spanish; or (b) are trying very hard to give the impression that you are "above the uneducated masses". If it's this latter one, it wouldn't be suprising coming from an Argentine, would it.

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I started studying it seriously after secondary school, as the level of the English lessons was quite low at school.
I think there's more to this than you are letting on. There is another user here who has a high level of English (joaocanal) but even so it is apparent that he is not a native speaker. But your writing is indistinguishable from a native speaker of English, so I think there's something you're not saying.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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A lot of native Spanish speakers can't understand every word of it due to poor audio quality,
Nothing wrong with the audio quality. Also, you are not a native speaker, so you aren't qualified to make this sort of statement even with crystal clear recordings.

Besides myself I only know a couple other users here who are native speakers of Spanish - joacanal and urbanluis. UrbanLuis has already said he didn't have any difficulty with the clips. If we can get joaocanal to chime in (and any others), it would help clarify the matter.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 02:14 PM
 
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Sure there is, that's why some native speakers from Spanish speaking countries (like Mhc1985) have trouble understanding all of it.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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Sure there is, that's why some native speakers from Spanish speaking countries (like Mhc1985) have trouble understanding all of it.
I'll wager that if I show these clips to 100 native speakers from different countries, 95%+ of them won't have any difficulty.
 
Old 09-26-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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You'd probably lose that bet. Lots of native speakers don't understand all of it or find parts difficult, and most think it's poor audio quality.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Spanish/com...derstand_this/


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Besides myself I only know a couple other users here who are native speakers of Spanish - joacanal and urbanluis. UrbanLuis has already said he didn't have any difficulty with the clips. If we can get joaocanal to chime in (and any others), it would help clarify the matter.
Mhc1985 is a native speaker who's from Argentina, who had problems understanding some of those clips.

UrbanLuis said:
"I understood most of it. In the first clip she said 'nos fuimos nueve dias a juntar pinon(?) a la sierra... And then I couldn't make out the next word. What is pinon?"

I guess you could interpret not understanding all of it as not having any trouble, but I'd think someone having no difficulty/trouble with something would understand every word. If you played a tape to me in English and I could understand most (but not all) of it I sure wouldn't declare I had no trouble understanding it.

Again, open to interpretation.

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