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Old 04-17-2021, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Brazil only recieves 3 million tourist a year? I find that hard to believe......As far as sex tourism goes I think other countries have over taken Brazil now.
Brazil receives over 6 million tourists a year for what it's worth. I wouldn't say "only," though as that still seems like more than most countries. You have some tourism mega houses like the US, Spain and certain other European countries, China and other Asian countries, etc., Brazil holds its own compared to most countries. For context, Brazil has the 6th highest number of international tourists in the Americas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings
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Old 04-18-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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In 2018 or 2019. Not all years. Estimately range 3 to 6 million. But what is the difference? 3 or 6 million. The tourism in Brazil is low. México recceive 30 million tourists for year. Many countries recceive 25 million of tourists for year. This ridiculous image of carnival an slums don't sell. Only Brazil believe that the world love this vulgar carnival parade full of naked women. Look like a porno parade. I hate when the media shows Brazil and only shows Rio de Janeiro slums. Brazil have many places to visit. And i hate the vulgar carnival parade full of naked women. Ridiculous.
Brazil hasn't had fewer than 4 million international tourists per year since 2003 and has--with the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to the pandemic--received more than 6 million tourists per year since 2014 (not just 2018 and 2019). I take issue with the 3-6 million range, and would have instead put between 5-6 million as Brazil has largely seen (with one exception in 2009 where it received just shy of 5 million visitors) at least 5 million visitors since 2005: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...L?locations=BR

The fact that certain countries receive significantly more tourists than Brazil does not take away from the fact that Brazil still sees more international tourists than most countries in the world. It is in this context that I write that I wouldn't say tourism in Brazil is low. And if we look by region, Brazil's tourism numbers are only (barely) second to Argentina's in South America: https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind.../south-america
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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Raw numbers of international tourists don’t tell the whole picture either. They are usually more related to the amount of people living in the proximity and the wealth of those people than what the tourist hotspots have to offer. Most Brazilian tourist hotspots are very far from heavily populated areas beyond their borders and they aren’t very wealthy.

Rio de Janeiro is 2000 km from Buenos Aires, 4500 km from Bogota, 7700 km from New York and 9200 km from Paris/London.

Rio de Janeiro itself is not as dominant as a touristic destination within Brazil as portrayed. Iguazu falls get a lot of tourists, Sao Paulo is also visited, and the beaches from the South such as Florianopolis and Camboriu get many tourists too (mostly Argentines).
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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Raw numbers of international tourists don’t tell the whole picture either. They are usually more related to the amount of people living in the proximity and the wealth of those people than what the tourist hotspots have to offer. Most Brazilian tourist hotspots are very far from heavily populated areas beyond their borders and they aren’t very wealthy.

Rio de Janeiro is 2000 km from Buenos Aires, 4500 km from Bogota, 7700 km from New York and 9200 km from Paris/London.

Rio de Janeiro itself is not as dominant as a touristic destination within Brazil as portrayed. Iguazu falls get a lot of tourists, Sao Paulo is also visited, and the beaches from the South such as Florianopolis and Camboriu get many tourists too (mostly Argentines).
That's a good point. Many of the areas that see large numbers of tourists are fairly close to large, international population centers themselves, to include the touristy regions of Mexico, which account for a huge percentage of that country's numbers I'd wager. Brazil is fairly isolated in that regard.
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Old 04-19-2021, 03:17 PM
 
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I don't see why there is a tourist tangent in the argument. The vast majority of tourists in Brazil are Brazilians. Most foreign tourists in Brazil are mostly from neighboring Latin American countries, especially Argentina where going to Brazil for vacation is as popular as Americans going to Florida or Europeans going to the Mediterranean coast of Spain.

The biggest issue as far as Brazil attracting more tourists from the USA/Canada and Europe has more to do with distance and costs of traveling there than actual attracting places in Brazil. Brazil is simply amazing when it comes to places to visit and see. That is definitely not the issue.

For example, the DR gets a lot more tourists from North America and Europe than Brazil. Aside from government incentives to develop tourism in certain places, the DR is also relatively close to the eastern USA/Canada and is the closest Latin American and Spanish-speaking country to Europe. It still takes around 8 hours to fly from Santo Domingo to Madrid, which is the closest major city in Europe to the DR; imagine how much more it takes to reach São Paulo or Rio. To reach Bogotá from SD it's basically a 3 hour flight similar to flying to NY, imagine adding another 3 hours to what is already an 8 hour flight. Brazil has a disadvantage regarding that and its no fault of its own at all. Imagine flying from other European cities such as London or Rome or Warsaw. I don't care who you are and how much of an airplane enthusiast you might be, that's too long to be in a plane.

Imagine how it was for most of the recent past, because flying has been a mass transport from the later half of the 20th Century, which for all practical purposes is yesterday. Before then it was all boat and that was even slower. Ouch!
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Old 04-19-2021, 09:37 PM
 
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The international tourism is Brazil is only 6 million for years... for some reasons
1- Violence. Brazil is one of most violent countries in the world unfortunately...
So is Mexico and it has an image problem that makes the violence situation appear worse in the media from the USA, the number one origin of its international tourists. Yet, it has several American/Canadian vacation hotspots that together attract more Americans than Brazil.

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2- brazilians don't speak english
Only a handful of people are needed to support an English language clientele and placed in places frequented by the English speaking tourists. You will be hardpressed to find just one town in the DR where most people speak English. Even in tourists town where it's easy to find people that understands English, most native residents don't. Of the minority that do, it dwindles further when fluency is taken into account. Yet, that hasn't been an impediment when it comes to international tourism from USA/Canada. In fact, the DR has become the main tourist spot in the Caribbean for Americans and Canadians (and several European nationalities too such as Spain, Portugal, Germany; Russia, Poland, Italy and a few others.)

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3- Brazil is so expensive
New York City too and ranks among the most expensive cities not just in the USA, but in the world. Yet, it's the number one international tourist destination in the USA.

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4- bad roads.
Most people that visit a country don't crisscross it. They go to a destination area and most of them don't venture much beyond that. That's the case in Punta Cana, Cancún, Medellín; Cabo San Lucas, Negril, Orlando (there most visitors never visit downtown Orlando, as crazy as that sounds); it goes on and on.

The biggest problem for Brazil's tourism from North America and Europe is distance and costs. To put it another way, if it was closer or at least in the Northern Hemisphere of the Americas it would've been another Mexico in the international tourism scene.

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Old 04-20-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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Yes. But i expect one day the media stop this obsession against Brazil slums. Because Brazil have a lot of others places than Rio de Janeiro. About Brazil image people don't undersdand my point. Brazilian TV, soap opera show a Brazil who the population is all white, blonde, with blue eyes. A country without blacks. This upsets black Brazilians. Because black Brazilians are a huge part of the Brazilian population.
But many times the media shows Brazil abroad a country like Barbados or Trinidad and Tobago. Caribbean countries who the population is all black, dark,or mulatto. A Brazil like don't exist whites, light skin people, racial diversity. Or only shows African Brazilian culture. When in Brazil exist many cultures. This upset whites and others Brazilians because we are a huge part of Brazil population also.
FYI, Trinidad and Tobago is not "all black, dark,or mulatto". Persons of Indian descent are a significant part of that population.


As for Brazil, I think many of you are exaggerating the so called media focus on Black Brazil. There is a focus on Rio, Salvador and carnival which have heavy Afro participation but for tourism purposes who wouldn't focus on carnival. It's a great attraction.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:40 AM
 
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Ok sorry.. I know not all people in Trinidad and Tobago are black. Sorry. I don't undersdant why do foreigners prefer show Salvador and Rio de Janeiro both of them the most African cities in Brazil.
Firstly Rio isnt an "African" city. Secondly what do you expect. Sao Paulo you should hide. Its an ugly city and the south is BORING! But for Rio and Salvador no one would be interested in Brazil, likely not even Brazilians. What aspect of Brazil do Brazilians promote when overseas?
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:43 AM
 
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Sensationalism. Rio de Janeiro slums recceive the average money of average poor population in Brazil. The majority of Rio de Janeiro slums have a high Human development Index 0,700 points. They have internet, TV, smartphone, acess to free birthcontrol. Only live in ugly houses but don't are desesperately poor. They are a bunch of opportunists. The media enjoy victimized black people. Portrays Rio de Janeiro slums population are desesperately poor.
If I were to go to a Brazil tourism site what will I see? Rio, Salvador, Amazon/Pantanal.

And you should move into the favelas and stop calling them slums of you think that the HDI is high. I am from the Caribbean and I certainly do not see anything in those areas which makes me green with envy.
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Old 06-08-2021, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Formerly NYC by week; ATL by weekend...now Rio bi annually and ATL bi annually
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Man this thing grows more and more legs....Youtube videos are not the concrete basis for the supposed facts that the world is fascinated with Communidades here in Rio.....or Brazil as a whole. I mean how many times can it be said? Yes, there are some people, not the majority but some, who are fascinated by Favelas. They exude culture...and a whole lotta violence which can be debated in a seperate thread. But the context some of the complainers on here seem to alwyas leave out is that the international media that does tend to report of life in the favelas only do so because they are marginalized and most people would not here of the good nor bad within them if it were up to the Brazilian media. No one can control what some thirsty tourist decides to post on his social media and youtube channels. But the media is controlling how they report conditions within the favelas and how everyday life is for the affected favelados. All the while Ive been living here and I still find it funny how some would for instance love to laud their Samba no Pe and its Passistas...their dance and their beauty. But dont want anyone knowing the conditions they either currently live in or grew up in. Most of those dancing beatuies are faveladas. The favelas have a story to tell; they are part of the fabric of Brazil. Not all residents of communidades are dope dealers or drug addicts or criminals. They are the working class as well. Their Brazilian stories and realities need to be heard as well. The media here in Brazil tends to not report on them unless its bad news....so why get mad when outside media outlets get wind of the full context of those places and report on it? Its not obsession at all in my eyes.....
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