So, How do you feel about privacy of your bodily details? (vehicle registration, insurance)

[Voebe]

Personally, I'm against even fingerprinting unless it's a job entailing national security. So you can guess how horrified I am at the prospect of demanding DNA. I sure wasn't aware of this.

The Arizona legislature considered Senate Bill 1475, also known as the DNA identification database bill, which could have mandated DNA testing for a broad range of occupations, including jobs already requiring fingerprinting.

https://apachejunctionindependent.co...e-legislators/

[WilmaWildcat]

DNA tests are going to be as easy and cheaper to get than flu shots at the Osco and not in the distant future either. Much easier and more information than fingerprinting. Nobody who needs identification information is going to forego this method. You leave your DNA everywhere you go, and it's going to be easier to get it off you in the future as well. I'm kind of involved with this because of genealogy. I have seen testing go from $1200 bucks per individual to less than $100 in a short time. Nothing compared to how cheap and easy it will be. Cops will get it from you at DUI stops. I cannot picture this not happening. IIRC Britain already has a national database of their citizens.

[WhoHooo]

All I can say is I don’t like what is going on.

[Voebe]

Originally Posted by WilmaWildcat

DNA tests are going to be as easy and cheaper to get than flu shots at the Osco and not in the distant future either. Much easier and more information than fingerprinting. Nobody who needs identification information is going to forego this method. You leave your DNA everywhere you go, and it's going to be easier to get it off you in the future as well. I'm kind of involved with this because of genealogy. I have seen testing go from $1200 bucks per individual to less than $100 in a short time. Nothing compared to how cheap and easy it will be. Cops will get it from you at DUI stops. I cannot picture this not happening. IIRC Britain already has a national database of their citizens.

Sounds like you really drank the Kool-Aid, if you'e fine with all that - including the DNA companies selling your information.

[turkeydance]

since most insurance will soon give a discount for that information,
the next step is a requirement to even qualify.

[Voebe]

Originally Posted by turkeydance

since most insurance will soon give a discount for that information,
the next step is a requirement to even qualify.

Ah, now that brings us to another point - the way that Americans have a strong tendency to give up so many things, like privacy, for the sake of convenience or saving a little money. A study showed that Americans, in comparison with Europeans, were far more focused on price (getting the lowest price) than quality. Which then leads to other problems, like companies sending jobs abroad where they can pay lower pages.

I had Starbucks offer me a free cup of coffee - that's it, just one cup of coffee - for my personal information. My impression was that a lot of customers thought that was a great deal and were happy to sign on.

[Adamson865]

Please note that to everybody screaming about those gol' durned Democrat liberals moving to Arizona and making it like Taxifornia and taking away all our precious freedoms, that this bill was sponsored by a *Republican*.

Just like the texting ban that passed through the last legislature... introduced by a *Republican*.

The vehicle registration fee increase which turned out to be $32? Introduced by a *Republican*.

So enough already.

(PS: I'm a registered Libertarian and a card-carrying party member... so a pox on both their houses!)

[WilmaWildcat]

Originally Posted by Voebe

Sounds like you really drank the Kool-Aid, if you'e fine with all that - including the DNA companies selling your information.

You won't find where I said I'm "fine with all that." I plainly said it's inevitable, and it is. It's law enforcement who wants everybody's ID. The FBI simply gets an account for their perp, gets them tested, and then they are entitled to match their results to the millions of others' results in the database like anyone else. What people are advised to do is keep their names private.

If law enforcement wants information on an account that is private, the company that we are with (Family Tree DNA) requires them to provide the same level of proof, such as a warrant, as in any other search.