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Old 02-16-2014, 06:36 PM
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Breaking Bad.

nuff said..

AZ wins..hands down.

Plus New Mexico has the ugliest license plates in the union.
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:54 PM
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Really?? I think they look as sharp as a razor,
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:01 PM
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I actually love everything about New Mexico except for competitive wages which is my personal dealbreaker. NM license plates are quite cool just like Arizona and their many options. Talk about boring ?California plates.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by caphillsea77 View Post
I think 102 years ago in 1912 when Arizona and New Mexico both joined the union into statehood as the 47th and 48th states they probably had a lot more in common back then. Arizona has just had so much more modern day growth, particularly from the mid 20th century going forward. New Mexico is still old school Southwest, where as Arizona has been completely transformed through transient migration. It also seems like New Mexico is not even on the radar of most Arizonans. New Mexico feels more like a frontier state.

It was that old school Southwestern charm that attracted me to New Mexico, and as a New Englander myself the historical aspects of NM was something I particularly appreciated. New Mexico is a very low key state, more poverty and lower middle class and less keeping up with the Jones' appearances. It is a very friendly and laid back state, most people seem approachable. All the locals in New Mexico will tell you they have better Mexican food than Arizona. Their own variation of it, New Mexican food is based on green chile peppers (and spicy red chile sauce) and it's very locally celebrated and they put it on everything, eggs, pizza, enchiladas.

ABQ can be a fun base for a while if you're into road tripping. Santa Fe, one of the Southwests most interesting destinations for art, history, and culture is only an hour away. Santa Fe has a lot of character, the architecture is all pueblo revival and it was settled by the Spaniards in 1609. Taos has great mountain recreation with good summer hiking and winter skiing and it also has a lot of artistry and an old historic pueblo style plaza. White Sands is magnificent, never seen anyplace quite like it. Within a 4-5 hour drive are places like Durango and Telluride Colorado, and the San Juan range which is some of the most beautiful and impressive scenery in the Rockies. Flagstaff/Sedona, and Northern AZ are also accessible for long weekend getaways. Denver and Phoenix are a long drive, about 7 hours, so if ABQ doesn't stimulate your urban fulfillment, it's a very long drive to the next major metro area.

ABQ is a mid-sized metro area of about 900,000 and the city has some quirky Route 66 charm, though some of it is also very seedy. Nob Hill/UNM area is pretty eclectic with good dining choices. Old Town is cute and touristy and is the historical center of town. Downtown ABQ need improvement and feels rather derelict, and a good bulk of ABQ's layout is low rent commercial sprawl. There are some nice and scenic neighborhoods up in the Sandia foothills, and along the Rio Grand Bosque. As a medium sized metro it has all the basic retail necessities one could need, even Trader Joes, Whole Foods and an Apple Store. Higher end retailers such as Nordstrom or many specialty stores here fall short, and the closest real Outlet mall center is 4 hours away in El Paso. When a new chain restaurant like Dave and Busters or Claim Jumper opens it seems to be all the buzz, and many Burqueno's are content with the idea of Olive Garden rather than a more local and authentic option for Italian.

Either choice the OP makes is going to be a much better and easier climate than New Hampshire for sure. I find desert sunshine much easier to get along with than the atrocious winter weather back east, and I genuinely do feel a bit happier out here. New Mexico generally has a higher altitude than most of Arizona. In ABQ, summer pool weather in NM lasts about 5 months, June/July/August average highs are in the 90's, it cools down quite a bit more here at night, Winter is a mixed bag or short winter cold fronts, and back to balmy 50 degree days and chilly nights in the 20's and 30's, however it did hit the 70's this weekend. For the most part ABQ has a very agreeable four season climate. ABQ is usually on average about 15-25 degrees cooler than Phoenix.

I love living in the Southwest and I've been living in New Mexico for 2 years. I want to settle into the region but I can only echo other posters statements here whom have had experience with both states, opportunities are limited in NM. I need an upgrade, more job opportunities, and a bit more to aspire to, so my partner and I will be moving to Phoenix by the end of the year. Though NM is a beautiful state with a lot of interesting character, Arizona just has a whole lot more to do, a lot ore economic opportunity, and a lot less isolation. So I had a good run here, but I'm looking forward to living in Arizona.
Great post. As a Phoenician, I also love ABQ and always stay at The Hyatt in Uptown and enjoy some microbrews at ABQ Brew Pub. Favorite New Mex places to eat are El Patio near UNM and Monroe's near the Lomas Central intersection.

ABQ is an active mid sized city with some potential. However, one can clearly see the poverty outside of Bernalillo County in rural areas along I 40 and I 25. Assuming you move to PHX, be sure to get your New Mex fix at Carlsbad Tavern in Scottsdale. Green Chili is awesome and they get all their stuff from Hatch. The spiciness varies from month to month which confirms the authenticity. Best of luck !
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottay View Post
-The two states are very similar in terms of geography. They have mountains, we have mountains etc.
-NM does get cold. Not like the northeast, but Albuquerque does get snow.
-Phoenix is much larger than Albuquerque and has a lot more to do but they dont have the brutal summers that we do.
-Not sure if you're a big winter sports fan, but Snowbowl and Sunrise just cant compare to the resorts in Taos.
-Phoenix traffic is much much worse. It took my wife 1.5 hours to get from Chandler to Avondale yesterday during evening rush hour.

You're obviously sick of the cold and snow so if I were you I'd choose Phoenix or Tucson. Have you thought about north Florida or Savanah GA??? Closer to your family and ultra cheap cost of living.
I have a weird sense of logic for not wanting to move to the southeast. Hurricanes all throughout the year, and even tornadoes aren't too uncommon. I like that AZ has limited Natural Disasters. <Major draw for me to come to AZ.

I do appreciate all suggestions though! Thanks for the input!

Lesser note, I cant stand seafood, even the smell. I ate a ton when I was little, but cant stand it at all anymore for some reason. I feel like the gulf is just as big on seafood as New England if not even bigger. Its just not as delicious of eating my steak next to a table with a fishy order, that has a SUPER fishy smell. Also a bummer when my fries taste like seafood. Im not too bad, Fresh seafood isn't a concern to me, cause its not completely overwhelming. **Stupid complaint by me I know **
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by magnum0417 View Post
I love both states but if you have to work for a living, the Phoenix Metro area has the most job opportunities along with competitive wages. I am familiar with ABQ and if you do not have a government job, you are scraping for $12 even if you are a college grad. Plus, you are competing with many blingual people as well in ABQ who are natives to the area .I was in ABQ last year and a recent UNM Lobo Grad was thrilled to get a $12/hr job at Intel in ABQ.

I love ABQ for visiting but PHX is my home due to more employment opportunities. Benefits with PHX is you can drive 2 hours and feel like you are back in New Hampshire from a weather standpoint during all 4 seasons.

At the end of the day, make your employment prospects #1. What good is having Taos and the Sandias nearby in ABQ if you are living paycheck to paycheck ? I'd love to live in San Diego but I am not willing to make PHX wages while having twice as high of a mortgage so one has to think practically. The term is "Sunshine Tax" is widely used for areas of the SW where cost of living far exceeds local wages. San Diego most definitely along with smaller SW cities like ABQ,Tucson, Prescott and Flagstaff most definitely fit that "Sunshine Tax" profile. Phoenix atleast has job prospects comparable to a typical mortgage and/or rental.
This is one of my biggest concerns of living in the Southwest/South in general. I only know muy pequito Spanish. very little obviously. I think I could learn, like anyone else, but I do feel it would hinder my search for employment.

YES I NEED TO WORK, My goal is to pay off my car and student loans before I move, freeing up $1200/month in bills I wouldn't need to pay anymore. I plan on buying property/house eventually, but might rent for a yr until I find my bearings. This is a 2 yr goal. So by Jan. 2016 I will be an official resident in a state other than NH, preferably AZ.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CheyDee View Post
You mentioned job security is important to you, your work is a "pro", and your present employer just opened a PHX office.

It sounds to me like a no-brainer then.

I thought this too.. "I'll just try to transfer to the Phoenix office." However I am under the impression I would be taking a pay cut if I take an AZ position. I could deal with that, but my office is hiring in AZ for 9-11$/hr. I think I now see why they chose AZ for the new office. I don't see myself being a single property owner, being able to survive yet prosper for 9-11$/hr.

The only thing is, Im beginning to HATE my job too. I mean very few people that I know, love what they do; but Im hitting a wall, and was sort of welcoming change. If they let me keep my pay I get now, I would work for the same company. If they cut my pay to an AZ new hire employee wage, Ill be seeking alternative employment. I have only worked at the same job for 3 years, but feel entitled to keep my pay for some reason. Its a catch 22
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:17 PM
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by KingBlunted View Post
Thanks for the responses! And thanks for the pictures even more. Being up east, Im pretty sure no roads, if any are that straight. In all honesty I really need a change. My #1 focus is AZ, but am still open to suggestions. I want to have some sort of job security obviously.
I would disagree with the person who thinks AZ has better weather, but it really depends on what you are looking for in weather: We loved the NM weather, it was sunny almost everyday and except for the spring winds you could be outside 99% of the time. Usually we would get a couple of light snow dustings a year, just enough to take pictures. The summers, because it was high desert rarely got over 95 degrees and the nights were clear and cool. We didn't even have central air, we had a swamp cooler. I will say, many people were adding central air when they did remodeling of any kind.

The job market in most of NM is good to very good. But I think the same can be said about AZ. AZ does have more to do: NM is probably prettier. I always called NM: truly Gods land. Of course the cost of living in NM will be a little less. u
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:22 PM
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Took the pictures Jan 2 this year, it was cloudless and the temp very comfortable.T shirt weather, bit windy, but nothing special, but twice I have seen snow in June along I 40.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:39 PM
Location: Yavapai County
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Originally Posted by magnum0417 View Post
I love both states but if you have to work for a living, the Phoenix Metro area has the most job opportunities along with competitive wages.
Both states have a lot of beauty, but I agree with magnum, you will have better job prospects in AZ. If they make you take a pay cut, you can always look for a higher paying job either before you come or when you get here. Don't come w/o a job though.

Renting first is an excellent idea. The valley (Phx metro area) is very spread out and you will want to ultimately live near your job or the commute can be gnarly.
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