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Old 08-12-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Amazing? For me, interesting, perhaps.

The times I went (to Mexico) it answered all of my questions and I'm no longer curious about down there. There will always be those who go there for different reasons: first timers -- those who will return -- and those who have been there, are quite satisfied with their experience, and are done!

The ocean, the cliffs, the jungle, the food...amazing. I'd move there if funds allowed.

I'm guessing it all depends on where in Mexico you go. It's a HUGE place.

But I would make sure I had my passport if I wanted to return!
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Old 08-12-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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Personally, Cadillac Lawyer . . . with all of the BS going on nowadays, I would NEVER step foot out of this country without a Valid Passport in hand.

Just another one of those . . . NOT WORTH THE RISK scenarios.

Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
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Old 08-12-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
Yep, like you say, it's the luck of the draw. It's not worth it for me to drive into Mexico these days. Walking into border cities is as far as I'd go these days. Places like La Jolla or Coronado give me my ocean fix when I need it and it's not a far drive from the Phoenix metro. Plus imho, I find places like La Jolla or the Torrey Pines area with the cliffs and all much more picturesque than Rocky Point.
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Old 08-12-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
Unfortunately, R Cowgirl . . . similar scenarios occur far too often and are rarely reported or even mentioned by either Local or National News Media.

Hmmmmmmm, I wonder why?

Returning to the original question . . . having traveled extensively due to my career, I can assure you "legal" problems / issues when re-entering have a way of ruining a vacation.
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Old 08-12-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: St. George, Utah
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My husband was shaken down by the Federales as well when driving in Mexico. Same scenario as R_Cowgirl describes, same $200, lol. And no, there is no recourse. It's to be expected that if you drive in Mexico you might get pulled over, and if you get pulled over you'll get shook down.

Odds are on any given trip that you won't get pulled over.

But if you do, and you don't have your passport, there's one more issue they can harrass/threaten you about. I would not go without my passport.

And just knowing that the level of corruption that makes us as Americans so accepting that crooked cops are to be expected makes me NOT want to visit Mexico, and enjoy my visit less when and if I do. I think at this point I'm with SteveK64. I'll endure a little longer drive and a little less ideal weather (to me) and head to Coronado.

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Old 08-12-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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My husband was shaken down by the Federales as well when driving in Mexico. Same scenario as R_Cowgirl describes, same $200, lol. And no, there is no recourse. It's to be expected that if you drive in Mexico you might get pulled over, and if you get pulled over you'll get shook down.

Odds are on any given trip that you won't get pulled over.

But if you do, and you don't have your passport, there's one more issue they can harrass/threaten you about. I would not go without my passport.

And just knowing that the level of corruption that makes us as American so accepting that crooked cops are to be expected makes me NOT want to visit Mexico, and enjoy my visit less when and if I do. I think at this point I'm with SteveK64. I'll endure a little longer drive and a little less ideal weather (to me) and head to Coronado.
Well said Montanama. It's all the odds and I agree, they are probably low, but what's the risk worth to someone?

We have US citizen friends who "own" property in Mexico. They are a couple and drive back and forth to their place in Mexico from the US. One thing our friends told us.....they ALWAYS have the wife drive the car in Mexico. He said the federales are much more respectful/friendly to woman than men and he's never had issues. When he drove in the past, they always give him much more flack at checkpoints when he was the driver and he was amazed how much quicker and smoother his checkpoint experiences went when his wife drove. They've been doing this for decades so I trust their experience is valid.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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All the off topic about Mexico aside, yes, a passport is required by the BP to re-enter the US but not to get into Mexico. They will let you back in without it, but may or may not hassle you a bit for not having one.
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Old 08-12-2015, 08:40 PM
 
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Same holds true for Canada.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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Mexico

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You must present a valid U.S. passport or passport card in order to enter Mexico.
Presumably you will have it when you return.
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Mexico



Presumably you will have it when you return.
Interesting. I have been many times and have never been asked for a passport going in. In fact, I have never been stopped on the Mexican side at all. Just waived through. I have one, though, as you definitely get asked for it by the border patrol when coming back.
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