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Old 08-31-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Pinal County is huge. In fact, parts of Pinal County are considered part of the Tucson metropolitan area. Only certain portions of Pinal are considered to be a part of the Phoenix metro, not the entire county for obvious reasons.

Casa Grande is not considered to be a part of either metro. The only people who think Casa Grande is a part of the Phoenix metro are people from Casa Grande. No intelligent person could argue it is a part of the Phoenix metro when it's not even in the same county (Maricopa) and it's 30 miles south of the Valley's southern most border (southern tip of Chandler). It would be one thing if Casa Grande bordered Chandler to the south but when you have an additional 30 miles of empty non-developed space between Chandler and Casa Grande, how can any intelligent person think that is part of the same metropolitan area??? What's next, are we going to start saying Prescott is part of the Phoenix metro too now?

Officially, the U.S. Office of Management and Budget considers Pinal County to be part of the Phoenix MSA based on commuting patterns, however, much of this can be attributed by commuters from Apache Junction, San Tan Valley, and the Pinal County portions of Queen Creek. The U.S. OMB does not split counties between two different MSAs.

Prescott, as well as Yavapai County, on the other hand, is considered a separate MSA.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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So I-10 has more consistent six lane freeway from Tucson to Casa Grande, yet between CG and Chandler its mostly four lanes. Why is that AZDOT? Why?
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ (May 08)
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Desert - it is because the stretch between CG and Chandler is all Gila River Indian Community land. A lot more hurdles to jump over - as they recently found with the loop 202 expansion.

It will happen - someday! We were just glad to finally get the extra lanes in CG proper a couple of years ago.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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It's bi-city.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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So I-10 has more consistent six lane freeway from Tucson to Casa Grande, yet between CG and Chandler its mostly four lanes. Why is that AZDOT? Why?
Note that Casa Grande is part of ADOT's Tucson engineering district. Not sure for what reason.
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Old 09-04-2015, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Arizona/California
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Modern Casa Grande acts as more of a distant exurb of Phoenix than anything, as I would consider it somewhat more dependent on the Phoenix Area than Tucson. As another poster mentioned, it is indeed part of the Phoenix MSA. However, it is not in the Maricopa Association of Governments, nor is it in the Pima Association of Governments (the respective metro area's federally designated bodies responsible for regional planning, transportation planning, etc), so for that reason alone I consider it to be it's own thing.

However, that may change in the future, as it seems that CG is now more and more involved in Metro Phoenix's future growth and transportation plans than Tucson's. It will be interesting to see how CG develops over the next few decades; whether it develops as it's own primary city or as one with a dependency on either Phoenix or Tucson remains to be seen. There have been proposals for far distant freeways (particularly Rt 24) connecting Pinal County cities, including Casa Grande, to the Southeast Valley. It is worth noting that the entire area stretching southeast from Prescott through Phoenix and Casa Grande and reaching towards Tuscon and Sierra Vista is all considered to be part of the Sun Corridor, which is designated as one of a few future megapolitan areas primed for massive growth.

As a side note, the Maricopa Association of Governments Regional Transportation Plan calls for the expansion of Interstate 10 to 6 general use lanes to Casa Grande in the early 2020s.
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Old 09-04-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Modern Casa Grande acts as more of a distant exurb of Phoenix than anything, as I would consider it somewhat more dependent on the Phoenix Area than Tucson. As another poster mentioned, it is indeed part of the Phoenix MSA. However, it is not in the Maricopa Association of Governments, nor is it in the Pima Association of Governments (the respective metro area's federally designated bodies responsible for regional planning, transportation planning, etc), so for that reason alone I consider it to be it's own thing.

However, that may change in the future, as it seems that CG is now more and more involved in Metro Phoenix's future growth and transportation plans than Tucson's. It will be interesting to see how CG develops over the next few decades; whether it develops as it's own primary city or as one with a dependency on either Phoenix or Tucson remains to be seen. There have been proposals for far distant freeways (particularly Rt 24) connecting Pinal County cities, including Casa Grande, to the Southeast Valley. It is worth noting that the entire area stretching southeast from Prescott through Phoenix and Casa Grande and reaching towards Tuscon and Sierra Vista is all considered to be part of the Sun Corridor, which is designated as one of a few future megapolitan areas primed for massive growth.

As a side note, the Maricopa Association of Governments Regional Transportation Plan calls for the expansion of Interstate 10 to 6 general use lanes to Casa Grande in the early 2020s.
Now, it remains to be seen if there will be enough support by other Pinal County cities/towns/communities for the Sun Corridor MPO (the MPO for Casa Grande), considering that the cities of Maricopa and Florence turned them down in favor of MAG. Currently the only incorporated municipalities that are part of the Sun Corridor MPO are Casa Grande, Eloy, and Coolidge.
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