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Old 11-06-2018, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Not surprised at the results, both candidates are horrible campaigners.
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Old 11-06-2018, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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Not surprised at the results, both candidates are horrible campaigners.
I was born and raised in rural AZ and recall the days of Evan Mecham, Bruce Babbit, Deconcini, and Goldwater. I moved to FL for about 14 years and returned in 2017. Arizona has really changed. I am surprised the race is still too close to call for McSally vs Sinema. Back in the 80s someone like her would have been unheard of. I wonder how the old Mecham would have felt about a lapsed LDS candidate who was openly bisexual and an ironwoman tri-athlete who wasn't married with children. I am Catholic but grew up in proximity to ultra-conservative Mormons of rural AZ. From my recollection, they would have ostracized her to the extreme in those copper mining communities - the blue-collar working demographic world out beyond the outskirts of Phoenix. This film is fictional with rated R violence, but the way the people act brings flashbacks of rural AZ like the copper mining strikes of the 70s and early 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZvgiQEF5Jw

The point is that modern AZ seems more liberal and less "die-hard" Republican like back in the day. I did not know the demographics had changed that much since I was gone. Realistically, I am aware Sinema may lose pending incoming votes. But the fact she is competitive this late in the night is surprising.

Meanwhile, back in Florida, it's been a close race for governor and senator. As usual, the results seemed to show strong Democratic gains as votes came in from South and Central Florida and Tallahassee. But as the more hard-core red counties of the FL Panhandle provided counts, the race switched back to red control like back in 2000 in the infamous toss-up between Bush and Gore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITaqc_NL5aQ

I have lived in both South FL and the Florida Panhandle. It's bizarre. The panhandle is like the "Deep South" - a bible-belt Protestant "southern" stronghold with many people of Confederate descent - Trump's base. By contrast, South FL is like Latin/Caribbean America who are mostly liberal but embedded with a side-twist of Cuban Republicans. The annual FSU-Miami football game is like a clash of cultures with descendants of white Confederates of the FL Panhandle near Alabama against the Latin/Caribbean fanbase of Metro Miami. It was brutally tense in those stadiums - far surpassing U of A vs ASU. Ironically, Sinema is a liberal who grew up in the FL Panhandle. I can attest she is rare in that region of NW FL. I wonder if she was a Nole fan growing up like so many in the region. FSU and Miami are down this year, but they have decades of top-ranked teams chasing a championship in the same season and often the one prevented the other from winning it (Wide Right I, II, etc).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp9gkJGno08

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Old 11-06-2018, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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This race just confirms my decision not to retire here. Texas is out also. All the immigration will hand this part of the country firmly in the hand of leftists. Then they'll have a free hand to run the country right into the ground.
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:13 AM
 
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This race just confirms my decision not to retire here. Texas is out also. All the immigration will hand this part of the country firmly in the hand of leftists. Then they'll have a free hand to run the country right into the ground.
Enjoy your Mississippi retirement!
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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Enjoy your Mississippi retirement!
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:53 AM
 
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Dumb CA voters moving to other states voting the same way and winning the same dumb prizes over and over. You would think they would learn, but look at CO.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It was a very close call. At least now we don't have to suffer through the plethora of political ads anymore. Is anyone else a little surprised Ducey got re-elected considering how huge the Red for Ed movement was? Because I certainly was. Regardless of that, I'm just glad I won't see the tutu ad, the child prostitution ad, etc etc anymore.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:06 AM
 
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It was a very close call. At least now we don't have to suffer through the plethora of political ads anymore. Is anyone else a little surprised Ducey got re-elected considering how huge the Red for Ed movement was? Because I certainly was. Regardless of that, I'm just glad I won't see the tutu ad, the child prostitution ad, etc etc anymore.
It seemed to me that Garcia gave up and never really campaigned
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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This race just confirms my decision not to retire here. Texas is out also. All the immigration will hand this part of the country firmly in the hand of leftists. Then they'll have a free hand to run the country right into the ground.
Their entire goal is to wipe out white people.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:40 AM
 
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Their entire goal is to wipe out white people.
And we would’ve gotten away with it too!
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