04-22-2020, 06:42 AM
Location: out standing in my field
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You folks flocking to the forests to not practice distancing this weekend can leave the smores ingredients home. The Forest Service has banned ALL open fires in National Forests state-wide starting today.
https://gcmaz.com/u-s-forest-service...J1JpL37itsI_HM
04-22-2020, 09:29 AM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Just wait, they will be closing the forests before Memorial Day. All the rain they had this year and the run up to 100 this weekend is going to dry everything out up there. Get ready for wildfire season.
04-22-2020, 10:24 AM
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Just wait, they will be closing the forests before Memorial Day. All the rain they had this year and the run up to 100 this weekend is going to dry everything out up there. Get ready for wildfire season.
The Northerners don't seem to mind the money they make of us "flatlander"
All kidding aside, I normally pack in extra trash bags just to take trash out that I did not create. It used to be really bad at places like Fossil Creek but since they instituted the permit requirement it's better. Sad to say but people can't be responsible for their own crap. Everyone complains about things like permitting restricting access but actions taken clearly show that's the only way it works without completely destroying natural beauty.
I'm hoping for a mild fire season and an early and wet monsoon season but I do say that every year. At the end of the day wildfires are part of our life.
04-22-2020, 10:34 AM
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Just wait, they will be closing the forests before Memorial Day. All the rain they had this year and the run up to 100 this weekend is going to dry everything out up there. Get ready for wildfire season.
They're probably jealous of all the teeth we have, we're real showboats with full mouths of teeth
04-22-2020, 11:20 AM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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04-22-2020, 11:28 AM
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My favorite camp spot up near Payson was finally shut down. Right next to a running stream and a perfect place to relax. But only 10 yards off the road and every time I went, I would have to clean up after whoever had been there the day before. Trash, people carving into the trees, fire pits still smoldering. Last time I was up there I commented to my friends that we need to enjoy this weekend, my guess is the Forest Service shuts this site down by next summer. Sure enough I was correct.
04-22-2020, 11:54 AM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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My favorite camp spot up near Payson was finally shut down. Right next to a running stream and a perfect place to relax. But only 10 yards off the road and every time I went, I would have to clean up after whoever had been there the day before. Trash, people carving into the trees, fire pits still smoldering. Last time I was up there I commented to my friends that we need to enjoy this weekend, my guess is the Forest Service shuts this site down by next summer. Sure enough I was correct.
Is that the one up past Water Wheel 3? If it is the one I am thinking of, yes that is a nice spot and it regularly gets trashed.
04-22-2020, 12:08 PM
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Just wait, they will be closing the forests before Memorial Day. All the rain they had this year and the run up to 100 this weekend is going to dry everything out up there. Get ready for wildfire season.
Yes, my wife worked for the Forest Service in Sierra Vista and Safford. I was already retired and I did volunteer work for them doing light maintenance and working campgrounds enforcing rules at times.
I put out many illegal fires when restrictions were in place and many were attended.
And you are correct, many leave the area trashed with garbage!
I had one guy on top of the mountain over in Safford threaten me because I put out his illegal unattended charcoal fire. He started to get into my face and had his fists formed and I showed him I was carrying a pistol and that it was a bad idea. Now the Forest Service did not know nor would they have approved of me carrying. But enforcement at times without some backup is a little tough and I don't like being beaten by some drunk!
After that clown backed off I used my FS walkie talkie I was carrying and called for a Law Enforcement type to come to the campground. The clown also threatened the LE officer which came close to resulting in his arrest.
I was later informed that he fines that the local judge imposed were very high for multiple offenses.
04-22-2020, 02:00 PM
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Is that the one up past Water Wheel 3? If it is the one I am thinking of, yes that is a nice spot and it regularly gets trashed.
Yep, it was officially closed off for good last year. They slowly closed off a site or two every year until they pulled the plug on any campsite within so many feet of water.
I'd always chat with the volunteer firefighters that checked up on campsites. One year he told me he found 32 unattended fires with either flames or hot coals over Memorial Day weekend.
04-22-2020, 04:02 PM
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Yep, it was officially closed off for good last year. They slowly closed off a site or two every year until they pulled the plug on any campsite within so many feet of water.
My FIL was on the Posse up there and, on that site, someone had left a tent. They thought it was weird that there was just a tent with no cars or other camping equipment around it so they checked back a couple of days later. Same thing, just a tent, so they went to go see what was up. Someone had cut out the bottom of the tent, dug a hole and used it as an open latrine. When they packed up, they just left the tent and didn't cover over their filth.
I always thought it was funny that the ranchers up stream would shut the creek down on the weekends when there were too many people camping on it.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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