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Old 08-18-2020, 12:24 AM
 
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Look at Arizona state map. Most of the biggest cities and population are located in a C shape freeway/highway (from Navajo Reservation, circling down counter-clockwise, to Douglas, AZ). Holbrook, AZ is the only city missing and accidentally forgotten to build. It's a great location with terrific weather, all flat-land around for miles and miles surrounding. I like how the roads pointing down south a little and away from Navajo Reservation in the north, so you can easily build a beltway freeway.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ar...4d-111.0937311

Maybe I will build a new big city here, someday, starting with a Burning Man event to attract tourists at first, then build one hotel non-gambling resort, and finally new housing starting as low as $119,000, but it will appreciate in value very-fast due to superior weather. Weather is almost similar to Albuquerque, NM type. Good times are ahead.
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Chemnitz, Germany previous in AZ, CA, AL, NJ,
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Don't forget the little detail about availability of water. The surrounding terrain has little or no vegetation for a reason (lack of rain), and there are no large rivers or lakes in the area. The coal burning power plant just west of Holbrook pumps all the water it can out of the tiny Little Colorado basin to keep the steam generators turning. Whatever water is left after that, I am willing to bet that someone already has rights to it.
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Old 08-18-2020, 05:46 PM
 
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Don't forget the little detail about availability of water. The surrounding terrain has little or no vegetation for a reason (lack of rain), and there are no large rivers or lakes in the area. The coal burning power plant just west of Holbrook pumps all the water it can out of the tiny Little Colorado basin to keep the steam generators turning. Whatever water is left after that, I am willing to bet that someone already has rights to it.
And just like that, the perfect plan came to an end. The Greatest City That Never Was.
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Old 08-18-2020, 07:40 PM
 
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Good luck with the financing.
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Old 08-18-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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Don't forget the little detail about availability of water. The surrounding terrain has little or no vegetation for a reason (lack of rain), and there are no large rivers or lakes in the area. The coal burning power plant just west of Holbrook pumps all the water it can out of the tiny Little Colorado basin to keep the steam generators turning. Whatever water is left after that, I am willing to bet that someone already has rights to it.
There is plenty of water. Flagstaff, AZ mountain area and surrounding can transport water. Holbrook, AZ is also not too far away from Show Low, AZ and Snowflake, AZ, both of them continue to be fast-growing cities, also with lots of water, but I don't see any benefits with Show Low and Snowflake, since they're not on freeway 40 directly.

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Old 08-18-2020, 10:52 PM
 
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There is plenty of water. Flagstaff, AZ mountain area and surrounding can transport water. Holbrook, AZ is also not too far away from Show Low, AZ and Snowflake, AZ, both of them continue to be fast-growing cities, also with lots of water, but I don't see any benefits with Show Low and Snowflake, since they're not on freeway 40 directly.
Mountain setting and being in a forest for starters.

Also, not plenty of water. Do explain how Flagstaff can transport water to the third largest city in the state
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Build a Tim Horton's and the Canadians will come.
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:49 AM
 
Location: In the gawdforsaken desert
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Water - why worry about water? Nobody in the west worries about water. I say, "Build it and they will come!" Then the govt will have no choice but to build an aqueduct or pipe water from, somewhere, to service the new city.

Would Los Angeles or Phoenix or Tucson have been built if they had water? See, nobody worries about it and in the end there's always enough for everyone. Besides there's "Meteor Crater," they could fill it up and there'd be plenty of water! See, it'll all work out!

Sign me up for a city block downtown on Main Street! "Mable pack the kids, we're gonna be rich!"
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Old 08-19-2020, 12:58 AM
 
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Water - why worry about water? Nobody in the west worries about water. I say, "Build it and they will come!" Then the govt will have no choice but to build an aqueduct or pipe water from, somewhere, to service the new city.

Would Los Angeles or Phoenix or Tucson have been built if they had water? See, nobody worries about it and in the end there's always enough for everyone. Besides there's "Meteor Crater," they could fill it up and there'd be plenty of water! See, it'll all work out!

Sign me up for a city block downtown on Main Street! "Mable pack the kids, we're gonna be rich!"
I would worry about Phoenix running out of water before Holbrook.

Oh yes, "Build it and they will come." I'm not worried, since Holbrook is at a terrific location on Interstate 40 directly. New Burning Man like event made out of semi-permanent tents is for starters, before we can build up permanent homes. Jobs availability no longer the biggest issue now, since more people are now working from home, due to COVID-19. We're going to live independently like nomad-tribe people.

It's possible to build a no-mans land new belt-way freeway surrounding Holbrook that no one will use yet, with Joseph City, AZ at the farthest west with direct off-ramp stop.
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Old 08-19-2020, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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You have some very irresponsible and impractical ideas.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/neva...h-between.html
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