Curious if folks are growing pot now that its legal? (Nogales: buying, high school)

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by wase4711

growing it outside here would be difficult at best; no moisture, WAY too hot, uncontrollable lighting conditions overall horrible growing conditions, if you're gonna do it, you need to do it inside a structure where you can control all those things, otherwise, you'll never get it right

Very true.

[john3232]

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[rich67]

Originally Posted by Ex New Yorker

It may also cut down on the black market sales where people can be introduced to all kinds of other stuff far worse than pot. People who deal drugs just don't limit their products to pot. One of my cousin's was a junkie (he's dead now) he also was drug dealer in order to support his habit. There wasn't anything that he couldn't get. He'd been robbed and beaten a couple of times because of his profession. He wasn't exactly associating with the most trustworthy people. He only made it into his early 30's before he died of an overdose. What a ****'n waste of a life. My father used to say that he took a perfectly good body and destroyed it.



If people are going to smoke pot I'd rather see them buying it under a controlled situation than dealing with the criminal underworld.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-crime/576391/
Lately, gangs have gotten involved in the illicit black market like we all knew they would. Legalization of drugs does nothing to reduce crime. It just makes the people who want to use happy, and if they vote, they support those candidates who helped them get there at the polls. Nothing more. Without simultaneously offering drug treatment programs that all people have access to (not just inmates in jail), the problem will get worse and you'll see more crime and more abuse of harder substances.
Watched my step son start off smoking pot, graduated to MDMA and then started using meth. He committed suicide 4 years ago after realizing how empty his life was being a drug user. He told me several times he felt pot drove him to use harder drugs- since he wasn't getting the high he used to get any more. He was only 22 and was a great kid- funny, seemed happy when he was clean and living with us, and really left a positive impact on those he came into contact with. Like you said...what a waste of a life. He could have pulled out of it with the right help, but the current system fails at every turn for those who haven't been incarcerated.
I know plenty of people who smoke pot, and they all are different. Most are lazy and don't want to do anything all day except get high. Others function at normal jobs, but lack some basic drive to better themselves. But I don't condone recreational use because of the reasons mentioned above. Medicinal could be beneficial, but the way we have sold medicinal marijuana to the masses, it's nothing more than full legalization anyway.

[Ex New Yorker]

Originally Posted by rich67

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-crime/576391/
Lately, gangs have gotten involved in the illicit black market like we all knew they would. Legalization of drugs does nothing to reduce crime. It just makes the people who want to use happy, and if they vote, they support those candidates who helped them get there at the polls. Nothing more. Without simultaneously offering drug treatment programs that all people have access to (not just inmates in jail), the problem will get worse and you'll see more crime and more abuse of harder substances.
Watched my step son start off smoking pot, graduated to MDMA and then started using meth. He committed suicide 4 years ago after realizing how empty his life was being a drug user. He told me several times he felt pot drove him to use harder drugs- since he wasn't getting the high he used to get any more. He was only 22 and was a great kid- funny, seemed happy when he was clean and living with us, and really left a positive impact on those he came into contact with. Like you said...what a waste of a life. He could have pulled out of it with the right help, but the current system fails at every turn for those who haven't been incarcerated.
I know plenty of people who smoke pot, and they all are different. Most are lazy and don't want to do anything all day except get high. Others function at normal jobs, but lack some basic drive to better themselves. But I don't condone recreational use because of the reasons mentioned above. Medicinal could be beneficial, but the way we have sold medicinal marijuana to the masses, it's nothing more than full legalization anyway.

Gangs have always been involved in the illicit drug trade well before pot was legalized in some states.

My cousin was sentenced to drug rehab, it was either that or prison. He was damn lucky in that regard as he was a player in a major drug ring. They busted him at his family's summer home which had been under surveillance for quite some time. His family could have lost that house and everything in it because of that. Rehab didn't do him any good and he died shortly after completing the program. Of course everyone is different. He was just too far gone. I don't know he might have been better off going to prison?

Honestly though, I have no idea how to solve the nations drug, alcohol and tobacco problem? If I did I'd probably be a billionaire. I know people who have smoked pot and went on to lead productive lives and others that didn't. Indeed one size doesn't fit all. Same for alcohol. Sorry to hear about your step son. It hits close to home. My cousin and I grew up together as kids. We then drifted apart when he started getting involved with all of that s**t.

In high school there were the drinkers and the druggies. I was part of the drinkers. Shortly out of high school I grew out of it. As I found more important things in life than just going out and getting wasted. Some of my old friends never did and now later on in life they've got nothing to show for it.

I guess some people just have addictive tendencies, it's part of there DNA. I never smoked and had no problems quitting drinking at a young age. I can sit down and have a beer or two with dinner but that's it. I know some people that once they have one beer or a drink they just can't stop. It's just one after the other. I never under any circumstances drink even one beer and get behind the wheel, operate machinery or go target shooting.

Most of the people that I know that smoked pot never went on to anything else, only a few did. Other than using an illegal substance they weren't engaged in any other criminal activity. Some still use it to this day. I just can't see throwing people in prison for that? Or at the very least have a permanent criminal record. That's the only reason why I voted to legalize its recreational use. I draw the line with all of the other stuff. There's no way that I could support legalizing any of that. I was never under any illusions that legalizing pot would solve the drug problem and all of the crime that's associated with it.

[teddyearp]

If you step back and look at the whole history of drug use and capitalism you may get a better perspective. People have been using drugs and alcohol for thousands of years. The greek word in the new testament that has been translated to mean witchcraft is pharmakeia. Imagine that. So when folks say drugs and alcohol are (can be) evil, they are correct. We are not perfect and never will be.


When people say that Capitalism is evil, tell them that folks have been buying and selling things to make money for thousands of years. It has never mattered the legality. But, when it is illegal, than the folks involved will be labelled criminals. And as such, the switch gets flipped in their mind, "I am a criminal." And what, exactly, do you think that does?

[lluvia]

Growing cannabis is a fun hobby and best of all, you can partake in enjoying all your hard and fruitful efforts.

[YAZ]

Originally Posted by wase4711

growing it outside here would be difficult at best; no moisture, WAY too hot, uncontrollable lighting conditions overall horrible growing conditions, if you're gonna do it, you need to do it inside a structure where you can control all those things, otherwise, you'll never get it right

Not harder than a lot of other non-native plants. Cannabis grows naturally in semi-arid areas around the world. Think West Asia, East Africa, Mexico, the drier parts of Chile, etc.

Up until recently, I thought it grew in more tropical areas.

Here's something more to ponder:

Hemp (not enough THC to get high), is another form of cannabis that's been outlawed because of its association with the hallucinogenic strains...may make a comeback. It can compete with cotton to produce textiles (rope, clothes), and uses 30% of water that it takes to grow cotton.

[wase4711]

hemp has already made a "comeback"..many stories on that but here is one..

https://www.tennessean.com/story/new...es/3399678002/

sure you can grow it here, and most likely, it will be "ditch weed", the kind we bought in high school...not anything we would want to have now...you have to treat quality plants with a special mix of nutrients, water, and light for it to be anything better than "ditch ganja" is most cases..

[DAXhound]

An equipment malfunction left me stuck in Denver the other night. I checked out a clinic. Seems to be working well. There is lots of competition. I bought a gram of 18% THC flower.. Durban Kush, about 8.60 pg Inc tax. Cop with a dog at the TSA checkpoint....

[fly_me]

Originally Posted by DAXhound

Do you have to be more than 25 miles from a dispensary?

This was 1.50 per gram in Nogales... What they are charging 15-20 for at the despensaries may not be as good.

Forgive the ignorant question but is Nogales on US side of boarder? And if it is on Mexican side are we allowed to walk back with it? I already planned on getting meds in Mexico. Thanks. I don't smoke but despise what my s/o gets in Vegas and soon AZ. In Vegas it is chemically laced in my opinion. I used to smoke years ago and have had friends that get it directly from Mexico. It was moist, if you will. Now, with multiple inspections it is so dried out - I feel badly for people that use it b/c they pay a fortune and it burns like paper. You mean $1.50usd?

I've mentioned in other threads, here, how he is so slow to move though we are in escrow and I want out of Vegas, if I can give him info like this maybe it will inspire him to bloody move. He spends a ton weekly on it.