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Old 01-07-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Just because it is the law, it doesn't make it right.
That sounds like what the illegal aliens and their supporters say.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with you. I just find it interesting that some people who oppose illegal immigration trumpet "it's the law" and then complain as above about a law they find inconvenient or interfering with what they want to do.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm on the border working to keep illegal immigrants out of the US.

As for driving - don't speed - you won't get stopped / ticketed for speeding.

The answer is quite simple really.
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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The laws are what they are. No one should get to pick and choose which public safety and health laws (or other laws, for that matter) one "likes" or think are "right" and will follow, and those which don't pass muster in the individual's judgment and therefore won't be followed.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Fair enough, that is what makes this forum a great place. We can agree to disagree. I do agree with most of your posts, just not this one.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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That sounds like what the illegal aliens and their supporters say.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with you. I just find it interesting that some people who oppose illegal immigration trumpet "it's the law" and then complain as above about a law they find inconvenient or interfering with what they want to do.
Which is why I like Sheriff Joe. He enforces all the laws.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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My problem with the cameras is that at night, even when I'm driving the speed limit, if some yahoo goes barreling past me, the camera FLASH goes off. Those lights are bright and it's startling... AND dangerous! I nearly drove off the road a couple of times because of those. One time I was on the OTHER side of the road going the opposite direction. I don't mind the Vans on the side with the cameras. That's far more random, costs the city less, is locally managed, and we aren't sending money out of the country to support it.

To me, they should spend the money to have more of the speed vans and get rid of the stationery cameras. I also wonder how much it has cost the city beyond what they paid the vendor -- because they keep moving the dang cameras. That means: Uprooting a cabled camera system with two lights and two heavy cameras. Going somewhere new. Stopping traffic to put in the strips of detectors across all the lanes. Pouring 4 concrete slabs for all the equipment. Setting it up and testing it. Then, 2 months go by and they are at a NEW location doing all of the above again. Inquiring minds want to know the cost of that.
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:44 PM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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And THIS clown is why I am not totally against having some sort of camera out there: Chandler driver stands through sunroof while speeding on freeways | Phoenix News | Arizona News | azfamily.com | News

Some people's children.....
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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And THIS clown is why I am not totally against having some sort of camera out there: Chandler driver stands through sunroof while speeding on freeways | Phoenix News | Arizona News | azfamily.com | News

Some people's children.....
Yep, that guy is a total idiot. It will not be so funny when he plows his vehicle into a family. We already had a DPS driver murdered over these speed cameras, and now this, what more is it going to take to remove them?
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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That sounds like what the illegal aliens and their supporters say.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with you. I just find it interesting that some people who oppose illegal immigration trumpet "it's the law" and then complain as above about a law they find inconvenient or interfering with what they want to do.
ABSOLUTELY, Ponderosa . . . I could not agree more.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Which is why I like Sheriff Joe. He enforces all the laws.
AMEN, Tanque Verde . . .

Exactly what all Law Enforcement Officials are expected, sworn and paid to do.

This latest "picking and choosing" which laws to honor and enforce policy is blatant BS!
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I've always seen a speed limit as a mere suggestion of what speed the government hopes you drive, not as a law. Therefore I use my own judgement in determing whether or not to obey said suggestion. I don't weave in and out of traffic nor drive recklessly but if it's late at night and there are a few cars on the freeway, I see no problem in speeding since there really is no danger involved in doing so.
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