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Old 06-30-2016, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Leaving fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada
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Of course in isn't even considered a southern state, plus, it seems people can't distinguish between cultural and technical. When you started the thread, I knew what you were asking, not so much as what the map shows but how many feel and many people, particularly those of us living in the Northwest part of our state do not really think southern. At least I understand what you are saying and you understand my point.

BTW: to those who want to continue this debate, I am not putting the south down; I love the south and I am proud to live in a state that is geographically southern. It is just for many of living here it feels more like the Midwest than the true south. Of course the southern and eastern parts of the state are different.
You just don't understand about Southerners. We will die arguing this point. Arkansas will always be a Southern state. ALL of it--from Benton County to Chicot County. If you live in Arkansas, you will eventually evolve to the Southern track.

No one wants a bland Midwestern Yankee trying to take over things.....now my Southern manners need to beg you to take no offense....
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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No one wants a bland Midwestern Yankee trying to take over things.....now my Southern manners need to beg you to take no offense....
Bless your heart. I met many girls in HS who disagreed with you.
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:43 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I cannot believe there is debate here. Southern......Period. Missouri may be debatable, Arkansas NO.
Not SW MO. Decidedly southern. We live five miles from the AR border. No difference.
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:06 AM
 
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I have no idea how it could be considered anything but "The South." Fine, there are other states, cities, in The South that can be considered more southern, but that doesn't change the fact that Arkansas is a southern state. A truly weird question. No other region or subregion would apply. Arkansas is clearly not the Midwest. It's clearly not the Southwest. What else is there? I have lived in the Midwest, California, DC, Pennsylvania, and no one I ever encountered considered Arkansas anything other than a southern state. Again, even if you argue that there are more southern places within the South, that maybe Arkansas (or sections of it) are not the "Deep South", that doesn't detract from the fact that it's definitively southern.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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I have no idea how it could be considered anything but "The South." Fine, there are other states, cities, in The South that can be considered more southern, but that doesn't change the fact that Arkansas is a southern state. A truly weird question. No other region or subregion would apply. Arkansas is clearly not the Midwest. It's clearly not the Southwest. What else is there? I have lived in the Midwest, California, DC, Pennsylvania, and no one I ever encountered considered Arkansas anything other than a southern state. Again, even if you argue that there are more southern places within the South, that maybe Arkansas (or sections of it) are not the "Deep South", that doesn't detract from the fact that it's definitively southern.
Agreed! Despite the naysayers, having lived in Alabama, North Carolina twice, Virginia twice, Kentucky, Georgia and even Texas twice, not to mention way SW Missouri five miles from the AR border for the past seven years, I know Arkansas is decidedly southern regardless of what certain transplants may wish to believe to the contrary.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: 78745
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southwest is new mexico,arizona, . arkansas is no where near that by 1000 of miles
The Mississippi River has historically divided the eastern United States from the western Unite States. Arkansas is west of the Mississippi River and south of the Mason Dixon line, so technically, Arkansas is in the Southwest United States, although just about everybody who has an opinion on the subject knows that Arkansas is nothing at all like Arizona, New Mexico, and West Texas. Technically, Arkansas would be the extreme Northeast of the Southwest region.

There are lots of Northerners in Arkansas, Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina. Those states are still solidly located in the South. Just like there are a high percentage of Southerners and their descendants in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Missouri. They bring the food, musiic, culture and everythg that is Southern but they are still Midwestern states.

I'd almost bet there are more Southern transplants in Indiana and Ohio than there are Northern transplants in Arkansas. Most Southerners in Indiana came from Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas and the western part of Virginia and the state of West Virginia. I don't remember meeting transplants in Indiana from the Deep South. But from the Upper South, they are everywhere in Central and Southern Indiana. The Lower Midwest and Upper South border one another so it's only natural there will be lots of business and pleasure and folks moving back and forth between the 2 regions.

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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I'd almost bet there are more Southern transplants in Indiana and Ohio than there are Northern transplants in Arkansas.
Bet, you would win. Though Indiana might not count as it was settled "from the bottom up" by southerners.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:41 PM
 
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Arkansas is a Southern state. By many measures it's a Southern state.

Taste it's food: barbecue, biscuits, cornbread, greens, gravy, fried, well (almost everything). Don't forget the pecan pie, sweet potato casserole and homemade ice cream.

Look at it's crops: catfish, cotton, rice, soybeans.

Listen to it's music: Country (Johnny Cash, Charlie Rich, Glen Campbell, Conway Twitty), Blues (Levon Helm, Junior Wells, Sonny Boy Williamson). Not to mention the King Biscuit Blues Festival, held in Helena.

Read it's authors, Maya Angelou, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings; John Grisham, A Painted House; Charlaine Harris, Shakespeare Series; then you'll know Arkansas is a Southern state.

Even geographically it sits in the South. Not in the Deep South, but in the South just the same.

Agree. Although if one considers the Mississippi Delta Region the Deep South then parts of Arkansas are definitely Deep South. Having lived in Kansas City for 7 years and traveled that part of the Midwest a good bit , I would say NW definitely has its Borderline Midwest/Southern Plains flavor that parts of Missouri, Oklahoma and Kansas share.


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Old 07-07-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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When I saw the title of this thread, I remembered that this topic had been discussed in the past.


Is Arkansas considered a Midwestern state?


There's other past threads that touch on this issue as well. Interesting.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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I know we Okie's consider Arkansas a Southern state.

Oklahoma is more Southwestern in its flavor like most of Texas (think SOUTHwestern not SouthWESTERN like Arizona and New Mexico). I see the areas around Fort Smith the obvious shift in Southeastern or MidSouth mentality to the Southwest flavor of Oklahoma and North/Central/West Texas. All these states/areas of Arkansas, Oklahoma, & Texas are Southern, just a bit of a different brand of it. There is a Westernness to it. As some say, the Western South.

I think that Western Arkansas, in particular, is very much like Oklahoma/Texas culturally. The eastern parts of the state, especially east of Little Rock are much more like the Deep South in Mississippi and northern Louisiana.

One is not in the Midwest until he reaches the Missouri or Kansas state lines.

Just my $.02.

Cheers & Blessings from Oklahoma.
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