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Old 12-07-2018, 02:58 AM
 
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Maybe there's an ebb and flow to things.
The current state of Arkansas you describe is what I saw back in the 70's and 80's. Probably prior.
Things did get better for a while. I'm not convinced they are as bad now as they were way back when the state developed it's deserved reputation with all things negative. It still has a long way to go.
My problem with Arkansas' current growth is that it's not at all appealing to me. I know that's just personal taste. Other people seem to like it.
No offense, but Texas, Tennessee, and Alabama do not seem like much of an upgrade to Arkansas overall but I recognize at least a couple of those are likely better for business.
Little Rock is still safer now than it was 25-30 years ago, but it's always been rough. I lived there in the early 2000's and found it to be tolerable but very problematic. Still my favorite populated place in the state by far.
Well, the culture of a location may be inherently subjective.

Little Rock has become an incredibly violent city, murders by gunshot occurring on a rate equivalent to a much larger city. Of course, no one wants to admit that the real problem is drug trafficking. The police either look the other way or else they are actively involved in it. Try to go to the authorities for help and you start to realize who the dirty cops are answering to.

I moved to Little Rock in 2003 to complete my last year of law school there. Moved away in 2004. Invested heavily in 2006. Moved back in 2014 because I wasn't able to get my building leased up long distance. I'll never get over the shock at the negative change in Arkansas, especially Little Rock. It's like trying to do business in a third world nation and they used to be so legitimately business friendly. I will NEVER go back. Press coverage of what Arkansas is really like has become sort of spotty.

It IS like Doc Hollywood in that the government just does whatever it wants and everyone, including the attorneys, just sort of cower like frightened children and let the bad thing go down. Didn't used to be that way. The system used to work.

Business relies upon a sound legal system. If a business person or investor believes that they cannot get justice in a given location due to corruption, stupidity, or whatever, it's wiser to go elsewhere. Personally, I like Tennessee, but I do think that Oklahoma realizes it has a problem and is trying to do better. Heck, I think that Mississippi realizes it has a problem and is trying to do better.
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Old 12-07-2018, 04:27 AM
 
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The local Arkansas press is probably as useless as MSNBC. "Local" isn't always their priority, at least not in Little Rock.
I will say the only place I've ever seen a neo-nazi flag in person (that I can remember) was in a yard in the Mountain Home area, outside of town down a secondary highway. Yeah, I know there are people like that everywhere.
We were going camping and I was trying to warm up to this region. That incident didn't help any.
The local Arkansas press seems to me to be like a lot of southerners, even myself. They are too NICE. They need to grow some male private parts and start tackling the staggering corruption, especially in Little Rock.

I strongly suspect that another problem with the reporters in Arkansas is the ownership of the media. The owners of the media are either a part of the corruption or they are just too good friends with those who are responsible for the corruption in the state. No one wants to snitch on their friend that they grew up with in Arkansas. They need to grow some male private parts and start doing some real INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM.

Outsiders that might want to move to Arkansas need to know that Arkansas isn't a place that tolerates BS and corruption. They FIGHT it!
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Actually, I was raised by two very conservative, hard working, well liked entrepreneurial parents in Louisiana. I'm traditional and conservative, just not alt right. My parents were traditional Republicans and raised me to be like them.

I'll never get over the shock I experienced at how negatively Arkansas has changed since around 2006. I moved away in 2005 and then moved back in 2014. Then I moved away again to stay in 2015. The economy is lame because no one wants to deal with how their fellow professionals act there anymore-spiteful and whacked out. It didn't used to be that way. There are JUST so many other better places to do business in the deep South is that's what you want to do.

Sadly, anti Semitism is rising globally, most likely due to hard economic times and angry people looking for someone to blame. People have a right to know that Arkansas may be becoming dangerous for Jews as are other locations around the globe. But, as I noted, the new neo Nazism seems more focused upon misogyny and keeping all brown skinned immigrants out.

Not that I'm in favor of a massive influx of immigrants from the Mexico border, because I'm not. In fact, what I favor, is both parties establishing a clear platform or policy on immigration from Mexico.

Am I Jewish or Mexican? No, I have a very tradition Louisiana heritage. My father was French/Italian and my mother was Scotch/Irish, born and raised in Mississippi.
I am not sure your parents leanings have anything to do with this topic. We all know many families that have both liberals and conservatives within the same family. In fact I am guessing most families do.

You may see anti semitism rising, I have no idea but from your comments, you seem to think it is very common in NWA: not so. And in my opinion, I have not seen it rising, but this topic probably belongs in the political forum, not here.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains Arkansas
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Actually, I was raised by two very conservative, hard working, well liked entrepreneurial parents in Louisiana. I'm traditional and conservative, just not alt right. My parents were traditional Republicans and raised me to be like them.

I'll never get over the shock I experienced at how negatively Arkansas has changed since around 2006. I moved away in 2005 and then moved back in 2014. Then I moved away again to stay in 2015. The economy is lame because no one wants to deal with how their fellow professionals act there anymore-spiteful and whacked out. It didn't used to be that way. There are JUST so many other better places to do business in the deep South is that's what you want to do.

Sadly, anti Semitism is rising globally, most likely due to hard economic times and angry people looking for someone to blame. People have a right to know that Arkansas may be becoming dangerous for Jews as are other locations around the globe. But, as I noted, the new neo Nazism seems more focused upon misogyny and keeping all brown skinned immigrants out.

Not that I'm in favor of a massive influx of immigrants from the Mexico border, because I'm not. In fact, what I favor, is both parties establishing a clear platform or policy on immigration from Mexico.

Am I Jewish or Mexican? No, I have a very tradition Louisiana heritage. My father was French/Italian and my mother was Scotch/Irish, born and raised in Mississippi.
Neo Nazism? Mysogyny and no brown skinned immigrants? You speak from the liberal handbook. Careful, you may have nazis hiding under your bed.

I don't know which part of AR you were in, but I have never seen it. Not really buying any of your posts. You have an account and the only posts you've made are to feed into century old stereotypes on a thread that's over a year old. Interesting. Maybe find a new hobby.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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I am not sure your parents leanings have anything to do with this topic. We all know many families that have both liberals and conservatives within the same family. In fact I am guessing most families do.

You may see anti semitism rising, I have no idea but from your comments, you seem to think it is very common in NWA: not so. And in my opinion, I have not seen it rising, but this topic probably belongs in the political forum, not here.
No, what I said was neo Nazism is rising in Arkansas, likely due to the despair of young men who have no jobs, no money, no opportunities, etc. Since NW Arkansas is a popular retirement destination, Jewish people considering retiring in Arkansas have a right to know it might not be as safe as it appears to be.

Neo Nazism is one of many reasons people might choose to leave the state.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Actually, I was raised by two very conservative, hard working, well liked entrepreneurial parents in Louisiana. I'm traditional and conservative, just not alt right. My parents were traditional Republicans and raised me to be like them.

I'll never get over the shock I experienced at how negatively Arkansas has changed since around 2006. I moved away in 2005 and then moved back in 2014. Then I moved away again to stay in 2015. The economy is lame because no one wants to deal with how their fellow professionals act there anymore-spiteful and whacked out. It didn't used to be that way. There are JUST so many other better places to do business in the deep South is that's what you want to do.

Sadly, anti Semitism is rising globally, most likely due to hard economic times and angry people looking for someone to blame. People have a right to know that Arkansas may be becoming dangerous for Jews as are other locations around the globe. But, as I noted, the new neo Nazism seems more focused upon misogyny and keeping all brown skinned immigrants out.

Not that I'm in favor of a massive influx of immigrants from the Mexico border, because I'm not. In fact, what I favor, is both parties establishing a clear platform or policy on immigration from Mexico.

Am I Jewish or Mexican? No, I have a very tradition Louisiana heritage. My father was French/Italian and my mother was Scotch/Irish, born and raised in Mississippi.
I completely respect that this is your opinion, and that your bad experiences in Arkansas are the foundation for that opinion. As I have always lived in Northwest Arkansas, I can't speak for the rest of the state, but my experiences are very different than yours. The economy in Arkansas seems to be healthy, not lame. Low unemployment, steady growth (even stellar growth in Northwest Arkansas). Compensation (pay AND benefits) isn't what it should be, and that does hurt Arkansas, especially in regards of recruiting professionals. But spiteful and whacked out professionals? I've never seen that.

I agree that anti-Semitism is rising globally, and that is very sad. I haven't witnessed any anti-Semitism personally, but I'm not Jewish, and so blissfully unaware. I have heard some negative remarks about illegal immigrants, and my fear is that some of the people with the strongest views don't seem to make much of a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. Northwest Arkansas tends to be a very diverse place, which is a good thing, but does cause tension sometime.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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No, what I said was neo Nazism is rising in Arkansas, likely due to the despair of young men who have no jobs, no money, no opportunities, etc. Since NW Arkansas is a popular retirement destination, Jewish people considering retiring in Arkansas have a right to know it might not be as safe as it appears to be.

Neo Nazism is one of many reasons people might choose to leave the state.
I am not quit sure where you are getting the idea people are choosing to leave the state or that the economy is suffering; it is just the opposite: the population is slowly increasing and the economy is ver strong. Yes, the Delta may be suffering but they have always suffered.

Yes, NWA is a very popular place for retirees, just like Hot Springs village but this is the area that is also growing. NWA is very diverse, with a mixture of white, hispanic, (which technically are white) Blacks, Indians and Asians. this is mostly due to the 3 major corporations with headquarters here. Where are you getting the stats that show or examples for that matter that Neo Naziam is growing here? I am not Jewish so can only go by what my son in law says, but I do know the membership in the Temple is growing.

It appears you are basing your opinion on something that occurred to you in the Little Rock area. That isn't the entire state btw.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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Neo Nazism? Mysogyny and no brown skinned immigrants? You speak from the liberal handbook. Careful, you may have nazis hiding under your bed.

I don't know which part of AR you were in, but I have never seen it. Not really buying any of your posts. You have an account and the only posts you've made are to feed into century old stereotypes on a thread that's over a year old. Interesting. Maybe find a new hobby.
I'm speaking from personal, first hand experience. I lived in Little Rock and moved away in 2015. I had significant business interests in Bentonville.

Maybe you should find a hobby :-)
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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I am not sure your parents leanings have anything to do with this topic. We all know many families that have both liberals and conservatives within the same family. In fact I am guessing most families do.

You may see anti semitism rising, I have no idea but from your comments, you seem to think it is very common in NWA: not so. And in my opinion, I have not seen it rising, but this topic probably belongs in the political forum, not here.
No, I was pointing out that neo Nazism is rising in Arkansas according to MSNBC and the local Arkansas press. I don't know if it is specifically a problem in NW Arkansas, but NW Arkansas is a popular retirement destination.

This post is appropriate for this forum because people may move to Arkansas but then want to leave when they realize that neo Nazism is apparently becoming a problem.
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains Arkansas
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No, I was pointing out that neo Nazism is rising in Arkansas according to MSNBC and the local Arkansas press. I don't know if it is specifically a problem in NW Arkansas, but NW Arkansas is a popular retirement destination.

This post is appropriate for this forum because people may move to Arkansas but then want to leave when they realize that neo Nazism is apparently becoming a problem.
So you're being serious with your nazi claims? I've never met a single person in my entire life who claims themself a nazi, yet you are claiming people are being run out of the state by neo nazis. I think someone has a vivid imagination.
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