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Old 12-19-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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The main argument in favor of legalized marijuana, be it using, purchasing, selling or cultivating it is that it should eliminate the associated crime.

In our part of the US, Northern California, marijuana is everywhere. Legal to buy, to use, to sell or grow; the latter two needs some sort of a permit.

But somehow maybe 30 % of violent crimes are still tied to the marijuana trade.

The growers fight, rip off and kill each other, and the buyers kill for the cash or the crop. Some of the growers devastate the environment. Hiking in remote, nearly empty country is dangerous if the armed guards mistake you for an intruder.

Two months ago a beloved sheriff deputy was shot to death when a legal grower called 911 for people trespassing on his fields.

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Old 12-19-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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Why? What would the purpose be?
Sweet, sweet tax revenue.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:12 PM
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Location: Up North
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The main argument in favor of legalized marijuana, be it using, purchasing, selling or cultivating it is that it should eliminate the associated crime.

In our part of the US, Northern California, marijuana is everywhere. Legal to buy, to use, to sell or grow; the latter two needs some sort of a permit.

But somehow maybe 30 % of violent crimes are still tied to the marijuana trade.

The growers fight, rip off and kill each other, and the buyers kill for the cash or the crop. Some of the growers devastate the environment. Hiking in remote, nearly empty country is dangerous if the armed guards mistake you for an intruder.

Two months ago a beloved sheriff deputy was shot to death when a legal grower called 911 for people trespassing on his fields.
Interesting how that works.
You don’t see those things happening among growers of tomatoes or whatever.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:14 PM
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Why? What would the purpose be?
To try to impress the cool kids, I guess.
Criminalizing it may have been misguided, but legalizing in this day and age might be worse.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Exeter, NH
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Most people who wish to use marijuana have a reason to do so - they are dealing with anxiety, nausea, insomnia, and other problems that are helped by using it. And while smoking has definite health drawbacks, there is plenty of scientific evidence that marijuana itself has some significant health and psychological benefits. Those with a legitimate need can contact their physician and ask if medical marijuana might be appropriate (especially since MM dispensaries offer tinctures and chewables for those who don't smoke).
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Hot Springs Village, Ark
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Most people who wish to use marijuana have a reason to do so - they are dealing with anxiety, nausea, insomnia, and other problems that are helped by using it. And while smoking has definite health drawbacks, there is plenty of scientific evidence that marijuana itself has some significant health and psychological benefits. Those with a legitimate need can contact their physician and ask if medical marijuana might be appropriate (especially since MM dispensaries offer tinctures and chewables for those who don't smoke).
Or they just want to get high.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Arkansas will probably by the last place to legalize pot there are still dry counties in Arkansas.
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Arkansas will probably by the last place to legalize pot there are still dry counties in Arkansas.
But with a card and a script, you can possess and use pot in every county. Just saying.
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Old 12-20-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Just what Arkansas needs.
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Central Illinois
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Interesting how that works.
You don’t see those things happening among growers of tomatoes or whatever.
The reason for this is that cannabis has a much higher value than tomatoes. Whether legal or illegal, marijuana is the United States's number one cash crop. And just like jewelry, autos, high-end electronics, and cash, cannabis has an involvement with crime. Unfortunately criminals want anything of value, and if cannabis wasn't available, the criminals would just be stealing something else.
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