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Old 12-22-2019, 08:15 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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^^exactly.
People will do what they do. The government can’t, and I suppose shouldn’t, control everything in our lives, but to make light of any kind of recreational drug use is just incredibly unwise.
I use the word “unwise” as a show of restraint for what I really want to say about the matter.
It would be nice if we were more concerned with raising our standards as a society, but obviously we’re stubbornly insistent on doing the opposite.
I agree that some people will do incredibly unwise things (I did a few things that fit that description, and did them sober, so I have no excuse). But I cannot see a valid reason to quit calling them incredibly unwise, nor should the government decide not to work against the problem. I especially don't want the same government that tells me I have to subsidize people's healthcare telling me I have to support those people harming themselves, thus increasing the burden on the healthcare system.

(I do have some Constitutionally based issues on how we go about attacking the drug use problem, but that is only at the federal level, not state or local.)

I find it appalling how many people want to call good evil, and call evil good. I also find it "amusing" how many people posted to this thread supporting us harming ourselves and our loved ones, and some of those people don't even live here.
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Old 12-22-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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I almost fell out of bed last night watching television. One of the public service stations had a cheerful commercial advising viewers that marijuana is legal to anyone over the age of 21 and then keep going offering points how to be a responsible user. Good old California.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Beer / wine/ whiskey = drunken man kills with his truck.
Marijuana/ heroin/ cocaine/ crystal meth= man attacks shoppers with a machete.
The fact that so many people still automatically associate marijuana with heroin, cocaine, and meth is a big part of the issue. Do you really think it belongs associated with these much more addictive, dangerous drugs? If so, why?

I think the biggest barrier to cannabis legalization right now is the stigma. People associate it primarily with the counterculture of the 1960s and the moral decline of American society. Stereotypical stoner culture also doesn't do it any favors. I think it's going to take another decade or two before cannabis legalization really goes mainstream outside the bluest of the blue states.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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Many of us feel the opposite from you: we prefer it not being legal except for medical reasons. so we could be saying the opposite for you: why make it legal? I am in favor of it for medical reasons for sure, but not for use to get stoned. As for being on the ballot, don't hold your breath and if, by some chance it makes the ballot it will not pass. Someday it will, but not now.
Why?
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Old 12-22-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Why?
why what?
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Old 12-22-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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The fact that so many people still automatically associate marijuana with heroin, cocaine, and meth is a big part of the issue. Do you really think it belongs associated with these much more addictive, dangerous drugs? If so, why?
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Because it is just as addictive and dangerous. Just more subtle. The first thing it does is damage the parts of the brain that allow a user to understand how addictive and dangerous it is, and then slowly destroys their lungs, and the rest of their brain.
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Old 12-22-2019, 02:51 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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.. As for being on the ballot, don't hold your breath and if, by some chance it makes the ballot it will not pass. Someday it will, but not now.
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Why?
It will someday pass because, as Paul prophesied in his letter to Timothy, in the last days, "... evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

It is obvious today that the inability to think rationally is spreading like a virus. Where formerly, upstanding Americans dedicated to truth were looked up to, today when they show up, there are riots and shoutdowns, because people do not want to hear the truth. Eventually, when too few people know the truth about Marijuana and other, derivative, agents, Pot will be legalized, even here. Already there are people on Internet forums spreading the lie that it isn't dangerous.
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Old 12-22-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas via ATX
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Because of this: The Arkansas Baptist State Convention (ABSC) celebrated ministry successes, sent missionaries, conducted business and worshiped at its 166th annual meeting Oct. 22-23 at Geyer Springs First Baptist Church in Little Rock.
Messengers approved resolutions affirming God's design on gender, marriage, sexuality and personal identity; opposing pornography, sexual abuse, legalized casinos and recreational marijuana, and reaffirming a commitment to scriptural integrity in political engagement. link

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You cite the beliefs of a single religious organization as being the reason we won't legalize recreational marijuana?

They also opposed medical marijuana, and casinos. Voters approved both.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Paradise CA, that place on fire
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"The fact that so many people still automatically associate marijuana with heroin, cocaine, and meth is a big part of the issue. Do you really think it belongs associated with these much more addictive, dangerous drugs? If so, why?"

It is human nature if we like something we want more / stronger of the same.

As a teenager I tried some wine. Rum or vodka was even better.
My first motorcycle was a 125 cc Honda, the last an 1100 cc Kawasaki.
Most gun guys and hunters begin with a 22 LR, then move up in calibers as they get older.
The desire - temptation is enormous and hard to resist.
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Old 12-23-2019, 02:44 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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It is human nature if we like something we want more / stronger of the same.
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Good observation.
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