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Old 12-23-2019, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It will someday pass because, as Paul prophesied in his letter to Timothy, in the last days, "... evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

It is obvious today that the inability to think rationally is spreading like a virus. Where formerly, upstanding Americans dedicated to truth were looked up to, today when they show up, there are riots and shoutdowns, because people do not want to hear the truth. Eventually, when too few people know the truth about Marijuana and other, derivative, agents, Pot will be legalized, even here. Already there are people on Internet forums spreading the lie that it isn't dangerous.
I agree completely but I am guessing it is, at least 10 years away, maybe more.
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Old 12-23-2019, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You cite the beliefs of a single religious organization as being the reason we won't legalize recreational marijuana?

They also opposed medical marijuana, and casinos. Voters approved both.
Glad you pointed that out. We had a situation in Lewisville, Tx where they would never allow the sale of alcohol and it was pushed very hard by the Baptist Church in the city. Of course eventually the ban on sales was voted down. It takes time, but the church, not any one particular denomination can only control what happens for so long. Regardless of how I, personally feel about pot, I don't want any one group making the decision as to if and when it should be voted in and I am objection enough to know it will happen.
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Old 12-23-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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You cite the beliefs of a single religious organization as being the reason we won't legalize recreational marijuana?

They also opposed medical marijuana, and casinos. Voters approved both.
When organized religion no longer stands in the way of the wet/dry initiatives, and ceases the opposition of the sale of alcohol, then I will concede that recreational TCH products may have a chance to be legalized in AR. Medical and recreational use is vastly different. Almost everyone can have compassion for someone with a debilitating medical condition, where the use of THC has been shown to improve the quality of life...but asking for the same blessing from those same folks for recreational use of THC for pleasure... that is a horse of a different color.

The OP asked "when"....I have offered my opinion of when based on my experience living in Searcy county AR years ago...granted some things have changed, some have not. Searcy county is one of the many AR counties still dry, some 40+ years later. The same county that saw the Sheriff and his Deputy sent to prison because they were involved in the distribution/sale of marijuana.
I don't advocate for the use of, or the opposition to....but like nita intimated, I advocate for the freedom to choose.


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Old 12-27-2019, 06:41 PM
 
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Well some of you folks got all worked up. It is just a plant, that is all. Just like coffee and tomatoes. For you religious folk did God not make all green plants for man to use? Well cannabis is green and it is a plant so..........there you go. It would be great for your economy. Does it pose some risks? Sure it does, but life poses risks so on with the show. Thanks for everyone's replies.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Well some of you folks got all worked up. It is just a plant, that is all. Just like coffee and tomatoes. For you religious folk did God not make all green plants for man to use? Well cannabis is green and it is a plant so..........there you go. It would be great for your economy. Does it pose some risks? Sure it does, but life poses risks so on with the show. Thanks for everyone's replies.
this has nothing to do with religion Yes everything has risks involved but pot has more risks than many other plants. Let me add, the OP didn't post about the pros and cons of alcohol, he/she simply asked about when and if pot would be legalized soon? Oh, I see, you are the OP. Why did you bother to post and why did you throw in the part about religious folks, this has nothing to do with religion.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas via ATX
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When organized religion no longer stands in the way of the wet/dry initiatives, and ceases the opposition of the sale of alcohol, then I will concede that recreational TCH products may have a chance to be legalized in AR.
These days, the biggest opposition to "wet/dry" campaigns are the people who own liquor stores in adjacent wet counties.

Just like the biggest opposition to Arkansas casinos was led by Mississippi and Oklahoma casino interests (even though they organized under the banner of "family organization whatever").

Recreational MJ will be a statewide issue, just like casinos and medical cannabis, both of which were opposed by some religious organizations, but both of which passed in general statewide elections, nonetheless. Medical MJ had stronger opposition from medical groups (or big pharma lobbies acting as if they were medical organizations) than anything remotely religious in nature.

$$$ is a stronger organizer of opposition to all of the above than religion is.
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Old 12-28-2019, 12:42 AM
 
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^^^ couldn’t rep you again, but I agree with all you said, because it is fact.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:40 AM
 
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why do you care? do you live here or are you planning to move here when they legalize it? Right now, there are more important things in the world than smoking pot for heavens sake. We already have medical which is fine but part of the state does not even allow alcohol to be sold so I wouldn't look forward the legalizing pot in the near future.
Defacto all drugs are legal if you have the MONEY to pay for it, and if you are well off with good lawyers.

So legalizing all drugs are important on the human rights level alone.

On the financial level, the government earns a lot of money from tobacco and alcohol. Alcohol is the drug that kills the most people.

Oh, drugs like heroin and meth? All available in prescription form. Opioids are available with prescription, and drugs like ritalin are meth in the form of a pill.

So why is weed illegal when in Arkansas when the equivalents of heroin and meth are very much legal and available from the pharmacy? Even medical cocaine is legal.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:43 AM
 
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The fact that so many people still automatically associate marijuana with heroin, cocaine, and meth is a big part of the issue. Do you really think it belongs associated with these much more addictive, dangerous drugs? If so, why?

I think the biggest barrier to cannabis legalization right now is the stigma. People associate it primarily with the counterculture of the 1960s and the moral decline of American society. Stereotypical stoner culture also doesn't do it any favors. I think it's going to take another decade or two before cannabis legalization really goes mainstream outside the bluest of the blue states.
Yet alcohol kills more people than any other drug.

Addiction also has nothing to do with the drug, even if it's heroin.

The opposite of addiction isn't sobriety, it's the ability to form healthy emotional connections.https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-is-connection

The reasons people hardcore use ANY drug, including weed and alcohol have to do with issues of abuse, of marginalization, and of rejection.

And for starters, all drugs are legal if you have the money to buy them. They are readily available, and well of white users will have no real trouble with the law.
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:45 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Well, we seem to have a deluge of disinformation flowing today, starting with this one.
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Well some of you folks got all worked up. It is just a plant, that is all. Just like coffee and tomatoes. For you religious folk did God not make all green plants for man to use? Well cannabis is green and it is a plant so..........there you go. It would be great for your economy. Does it pose some risks? Sure it does, but life poses risks so on with the show. Thanks for everyone's replies.
Let me get you some nightshade or digitalis or pokeweed. Eat a good portion of each, then tell me that "God made all green plants for man to use."

Marijuana has its place. Like Digitalis, "its place" isn't for recreational use.

But it is likely that most of those advocating recreational use are either already brain damaged, or are somewhere out of state and just wish to see Arkansas harmed for their pleasure.
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