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Old 02-04-2020, 07:09 PM
 
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Just look at the condition and murder rates of the major cities controlled by Democrats for decades like Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit. I see it as I work in the Chicago area. The state can never get enough $$ to satisfy their thirst and their corruption. They have resorted to becoming drug dealers so they can haul in a 37% tax rate. Bottom line is people are fleeing these areas and have been for years.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Just look at the condition and murder rates of the major cities controlled by Democrats for decades like Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit. I see it as I work in the Chicago area. The state can never get enough $$ to satisfy their thirst and their corruption. They have resorted to becoming drug dealers so they can haul in a 37% tax rate. Bottom line is people are fleeing these areas and have been for years.
Yes, it is pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't refuse to see it.
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Old Yesterday, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Just look at the condition and murder rates of the major cities controlled by Democrats for decades like Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit. I see it as I work in the Chicago area. The state can never get enough $$ to satisfy their thirst and their corruption. They have resorted to becoming drug dealers so they can haul in a 37% tax rate. Bottom line is people are fleeing these areas and have been for years.
Several cities in CA are starting to see crime rates go up as well.
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Old Today, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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No, they are slowly working to take away those rights. It's a fact, not an opinion. You have to know what is happening in Virginia, so how you can stand by what you say.
So, what is supposed to be happening in Virginia?
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Old Today, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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First, did you even read DC's cogent, reasoned, and thoughtful post, miquel?:

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It's not a FACT. It is your opinion. We each of us come to our political positions based on our experience of the world. Each person's experiences, each person's personality and methods of coping, are unique. So the positions we take, and the reasons for those positions, is unique. We then align ourselves with groups that we feel matches the vision we have of the future. Your 2nd Amendment rights are safe. The Bill of Rights is a bedrock document for American jurisprudence. Plus, disarming Americans is a logistical impossibility. The decision of whether we would be an armed citizenry or not was made 250 years ago, and it can't be undone.

That said, it is reasonable for the government to pass laws making it illegal for some felons to have guns. Protecting the public is one of the responsibilities of government. It is reasonable for the government to have a system in place to check if someone is a felon who is trying to purchase a weapon. It is reasonable for the government to check backgrounds for mental illness which could result in a person behaving violently.

I don't have a solution to gun violence. It will happen, again and again and again. Someone who is determined to harm others will find a way to do so. But that doesn't mean that I would support someone who is psychotic and has a history of violence being allowed to purchase a gun.

We have laws against libel and slander. We have laws against robbery and assault. We don't have unlimited freedom in this country, because people get involved in conflicts, and there is a need to balance the freedoms of one person against another. Virginia's proposed red flag law may be an intrusion on your freedom, and I know from your posts that you are a very responsible person and I understand your discomfort with your right to bear arms being denied because someone raises a red flag. As I understand it, though, the red flag law requires a stringent assessment of the risk, and there is legal remedy to the red flag.

I don't think it is fair to condemn all liberals as one thing, or all conservatives for that matter. There is a breathtaking range of political positions within either group, and a plethora of issues for people to take a position on. Added to that, we all prioritize the issues differently. The 2nd Amendment is not as important to me as it is to you. I don't hunt, I cannot shoot, I don't own a gun. But I have brothers that do. So my perspective is different than yours. But a different perspective doesn't mean I love this country any less than you, or that I don't support the Constitution fully and comprehensively.
Second, miquel, did you not realize the irony of what you wrote?

Really?

Wow!


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If they did, they wouldn't want to fundamentally change it. They wouldn't want to rewrite the Constitution. They wouldn't feel the Constitution is a living document that should be changed just because they don't like some of the protections it provides the citizens. They wouldn't want to open our borders to undocumented illegal immigrants. They wouldn't want to change our system to socialized medicine, education or anything else. They wouldn't support undermining a president just because they didn't like him. They would insist their leaders work for positive change instead of pushing hate filled envy based on economic class, race and religion.

Nope, they hate our country and want to destroy it and replace it with an impossible communistic utopia based on the fantasies of naive youth educated in an education system built to support those that want to destroy the United States of America.
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Old Today, 05:43 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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So, what is supposed to be happening in Virginia?
I did a background check on this poster, and heard the whirring of a small electric outboard motor.
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Old Today, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I did a background check on this poster, and heard the whirring of a small electric outboard motor.

Riiight
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