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Old 04-07-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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Here is a great article about reinfection chances from the virus:https://time.com/5810454/coronavirus...y-reinfection/
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Experts say the body’s antibody response, triggered by the onset of a virus, means it is unlikely that patients who have recovered from COVID-19 can get re-infected so soon after contracting the virus. Antibodies are normally produced in a patient’s body around seven to 10 days after the initial onset of a virus, says Vineet Menachery, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch.
Instead, testing positive after recovery could just mean the tests resulted in a false negative and that the patient is still infected. “It may be because of the quality of the specimen that they took and may be because the test was not so sensitive,” explains David Hui,
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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Well I'm back. That potential I was telling yall about few days ago? Yep. Tested positive. My shift captain is out. Got tested today. So, he's out for a while. I'm not having any symptoms, so I'm not on the at watch list. But we're working to get all our personnel tested. Waiting on that wonderful mayor of ours. Also on a sad note, an old fart I knew passed away day before yesterday. He tested positive. I knew I should have went visit when I had the chance. But going to that house is too painful for me. He was the step dad, or rather father, to my best friend growing up. He was hit by a car on his bicycle and passed the next morning. It hurt so bad that I just couldn't go to his funeral. And it took me right about 20 years just to go to his grave. I think about him every day and just recently told his mom why I couldn't go visit.

I'm sorry, just rambling. They say talking about it helps, so when given a chance, I shed these layers of pain and anguish. Nowadays, it just feels like it's best to reach out to people. Let others know that they're not alone in these struggles. Maybe tomorrow we can wake up and this covid would just be a nightmare.
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Old 04-08-2020, 02:27 AM
 
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Including NO Saints head coach Sean Payton, who was diagnosed immediately after he returned from Hot Springs, Arkansas.
Incubation period is from 2-14- days after exposure according to CDC. A new study led by researchers at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health provides a median time of about 5 days.

Chances are he brought it to Hot Springs. Guess we will never know unless we did proper contact tracing, which some nations have been successful with, and had a full list of his travel intinerary for at least a full 14 days.
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Old 04-08-2020, 02:52 AM
 
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Dr Fauci, and others, have offered up facts, and that has way more value than the offering of fairy tales during a crisis.
Viruses don't have political parties. I so agree.

It is sad that partisan politics has been introduced into this topic. Which means I won't continue to read or post here much. It said Corona virus so I entered the topic when it first started.

I don't use TV, I read on the science, virology, and epidemiology sites. That allowed me to start sheltering in place by mid-February, because I understood what was going on.....while so many were going to mardi gras, spring break, etc. and generally downplaying concerns. I did my best to explain about how disease spreads and the arithmetic model of how that happens.

If anyone is at all interested in reading some fascinating information about this virus, as compared to the SAR-1 and SAR-2, how different viruses attach to us, and why masks and social distancing are necessary at this time (until we get a vaccine), how a vaccine works on this....... this is a very good article that puts it in terms that a layperson can understand. He is a Ph.D. virologist from Harvard.

Those who wish to get their information and conspiracy theories from the Boob Tube......carry on. The media are not virologists and depending on what station you are tuning into, you will receive a biased view.

Warning: there is no politics in this article......so if you want to argue conspiracy theories and/or partisan politics, you will be vastly disappointed.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...021348865.html

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Old 04-08-2020, 03:13 AM
 
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Nothing was done to mitigate the swine flu in '09 but it faded away from pandemic status although it still exists today.
WEll it didn't exactly just fade away. The seasonal flu vaccine now includes the H1N1 pandemic strain, so if you got your flu shot, you're protected.

But I do agree with you, viruses are always with us and always will be, including new ones to which we may not have immunity, like Covid.

I know more than many of you would ever want to know about H1N1. You see, my mother got it and spent 45 days in 2 different hospitals and 2 rehabs. She had gotten her flu shot that year, but of course, it didn't have the H1N1 protection. They didn't know about it yet.

She barely made it out alive, but was and is severely compromised now, as a result. Hooked up to o2 24/7. For rest of life.

I cried many tears, kept many notebooks based on my conversations while tending to her in the hospitals, from doctors, hospitalists, nurses, infectious disease specialist, respiratory therapists, and thoracic surgeons. 45 days, ups and downs, wondering every day if I would see her alive when I woke up.

Yeah, I could "write the book". If you didn't go thru this, it is easy to yawn about it afterwards. Sort of like people in other states see our tornados on TV and it doens't quite register. But, If you did go thru it, you are traumatized in a way you will never forget. Many sorrows. There were other people in those wards who did die. I got to know some of them, and their families, too.

I'd like to take a moment to sing some glory to the real heroes during our pandemic, and that is the medical workers who are tirelessly putting their lives at risk and working long hours every day in battle with this. They are also providing the words, the hand holds, the soft head stroking, and all the things a son or daughter or loved one would provide, because the saddest thing about covid is that people are dying ...........ALONE. The nurses are the ones holding the phones up to them, so that they can see their children or loved ones speaking to them at their last hour, etc. And then many are living in hotel rooms for fear of bringing this home to their own families.

I so much appreiciate them! And yes, this will be over soon. The more we follow the rules the faster we can get thru this.

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Old 04-08-2020, 05:59 AM
 
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Well I'm back. That potential I was telling yall about few days ago? Yep. Tested positive. My shift captain is out. Got tested today. So, he's out for a while. I'm not having any symptoms, so I'm not on the at watch list. But we're working to get all our personnel tested. Waiting on that wonderful mayor of ours. Also on a sad note, an old fart I knew passed away day before yesterday. He tested positive. I knew I should have went visit when I had the chance. But going to that house is too painful for me. He was the step dad, or rather father, to my best friend growing up. He was hit by a car on his bicycle and passed the next morning. It hurt so bad that I just couldn't go to his funeral. And it took me right about 20 years just to go to his grave. I think about him every day and just recently told his mom why I couldn't go visit.

I'm sorry, just rambling. They say talking about it helps, so when given a chance, I shed these layers of pain and anguish. Nowadays, it just feels like it's best to reach out to people. Let others know that they're not alone in these struggles. Maybe tomorrow we can wake up and this covid would just be a nightmare.

Oh no, is your shift captain having mild symptoms? How many days after exposure did they show? Hope which ever ones are positive to have a quick recovery.
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Old 04-08-2020, 06:08 AM
 
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WEll it didn't exactly just fade away. The seasonal flu vaccine now includes the H1N1 pandemic strain, so if you got your flu shot, you're protected.

But I do agree with you, viruses are always with us and always will be, including new ones to which we may not have immunity, like Covid.

I know more than many of you would ever want to know about H1N1. You see, my mother got it and spent 45 days in 2 different hospitals and 2 rehabs. She had gotten her flu shot that year, but of course, it didn't have the H1N1 protection. They didn't know about it yet.

She barely made it out alive, but was and is severely compromised now, as a result. Hooked up to o2 24/7. For rest of life.

I cried many tears, kept many notebooks based on my conversations while tending to her in the hospitals, from doctors, hospitalists, nurses, infectious disease specialist, respiratory therapists, and thoracic surgeons. 45 days, ups and downs, wondering every day if I would see her alive when I woke up.

Yeah, I could "write the book". If you didn't go thru this, it is easy to yawn about it afterwards. Sort of like people in other states see our tornados on TV and it doens't quite register. But, If you did go thru it, you are traumatized in a way you will never forget. Many sorrows. There were other people in those wards who did die. I got to know some of them, and their families, too.

I'd like to take a moment to sing some glory to the real heroes during our pandemic, and that is the medical workers who are tirelessly putting their lives at risk and working long hours every day in battle with this. They are also providing the words, the hand holds, the soft head stroking, and all the things a son or daughter or loved one would provide, because the saddest thing about covid is that people are dying ...........ALONE. The nurses are the ones holding the phones up to them, so that they can see their children or loved ones speaking to them at their last hour, etc. And then many are living in hotel rooms for fear of bringing this home to their own families.

I so much appreiciate them! And yes, this will be over soon. The more we follow the rules the faster we can get thru this.

Very sorry to hear about your mom, many of us didn't hear much about H1N1 after '09.



And yes, our medical personnel who are battling this deserve all our respect.
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Old 04-08-2020, 06:26 AM
 
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Oh no, is your shift captain having mild symptoms? How many days after exposure did they show? Hope which ever ones are positive to have a quick recovery.
Fever, sore throat, coughing. Was about a week. Also there's another fireman that relieves us has symptoms. He was in contact with him just the other day too.
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Old 04-08-2020, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Where did you get this impression? I don't know that that's true or isn't true. But, what I can say is that during the Influenza outbreak of 1918, the virus went away in the summer months and returned in its second wave as a much stronger virus than it was prior to summer. It killed 200,000 Americans during the month of October alone (the worst month in the U.S.).

One thing that seems hauntingly similar between these two pandemics, for me, is human behavior. I don't recall the month that it happened, but Philadelphia wanted to lift everyone's spirits with a parade during the pandemic (sort of similar to how New Orleans decided against public health officials to hold Mardis Gras). During that month of October, 11,000 people died in Philadelphia alone -- the worst struck city per capita during that month. Of course, New Orleans is currently featuring the worst mortality rate in the country right now.

When city officials and governors behave irrationally in times like these, unfortunately, we're going to see more New Yorks and more New Orleans and more Seattles (though they'll come in waves) and to tell ourselves that that isn't the case sets us up for a false sense of security.

As a note, I don't say these things to bring anyone down. I just think it's very important for us to actually learn from history and by doing so, it's likely that we'll have a much more realistic idea of the future -- food preparedness, economic preparedness. I was someone who lost their job pretty early on. We were able to get out of our lease (and still maintain all bills), and we're moving to a new location (hence I was looking at the Arkansas forum) to weather the potential long-term nature of the storm while we downsized considerably. Unfortunately, banks are unwilling to do much when it comes to refinancing so our goal is not to lose one of our rental properties. So yeah, things are bad but I haven't started putting things in my head to make myself believe they might not get worse. It's sort of about setting expectations and my expectation and what I'll prepare for is food and financial security.

I'd certainly hate to tell everyone rosy things about the future to lull them into a sense of security and have that blow up in their faces.
Everyone has their own feelings about what we are experiencing and will see in the future. Comparing 202 with 1918 is like comparing the days of polio with today. Science has come so far. I can remember the rear we all had during the polio days. We did not stop living but we did worry. Today, anyone under 70 doesn't even remember those days. Thank God. Again and then I will leave this for others to discuss: Gloom and doom attitudes will not help anyone and we have no idea what the future holds. Be careful, be wise but don't look at the down side of life.
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Old 04-08-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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Well I'm back. That potential I was telling yall about few days ago? Yep. Tested positive. My shift captain is out. Got tested today. So, he's out for a while. I'm not having any symptoms, so I'm not on the at watch list. But we're working to get all our personnel tested. Waiting on that wonderful mayor of ours. Also on a sad note, an old fart I knew passed away day before yesterday. He tested positive. I knew I should have went visit when I had the chance. But going to that house is too painful for me. He was the step dad, or rather father, to my best friend growing up. He was hit by a car on his bicycle and passed the next morning. It hurt so bad that I just couldn't go to his funeral. And it took me right about 20 years just to go to his grave. I think about him every day and just recently told his mom why I couldn't go visit.

I'm sorry, just rambling. They say talking about it helps, so when given a chance, I shed these layers of pain and anguish. Nowadays, it just feels like it's best to reach out to people. Let others know that they're not alone in these struggles. Maybe tomorrow we can wake up and this covid would just be a nightmare.
I'm sorry you are having to go through this, especially during a time of loss. You are NOT alone. You are a valued member of our community at city-data.
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