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Old 01-23-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Why are Han Chinese so Tai-Kadai and not Sino-Tibetan?

These are all linguistic terms anyway.

The Khmer and Viet aren't really very closely related genetically as their language would suggest.


The little squares (in fount of location) are represent to the language. While the big graph on the back(under K = 14) is represent to DNA and genetic that ethnic has in itself. So the terms don't just represent to only the language, they represent to DNA as well.

For example:
Uyghur of China are Altaic speaker, but their genetic aren't make up of Altaic gene. Their genetic are similar to indian with a little bit of Tai-kadai and Altaic.

Another example:
Jinuo and Karen are Sino-Tibetan speaker, but their genetic make up by Tai-Kadai and Austro-Asiatic.

 
Old 01-23-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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The little squares (in fount of location) are represent to the language. While the big graph on the back(under K = 14) is represent to DNA and genetic that ethnic has in itself. So the terms don't just represent to only the language, they represent to DNA as well.

For example:
Uyghur of China are Altaic speaker, but their genetic aren't make up of Altaic gene. Their genetic are similar to indian with a little bit of Tai-kadai and Altaic.

Another example:
Jinuo and Karen are Sino-Tibetan speaker, but their genetic make up by Tai-Kadai and Austro-Asiatic.
You're right, I just noticed that sometimes the square by the name is different from most of the genetic makeup in the chart.

As far as the chart, they use the language family names as labels for the population that they used as a reference. For instance, if they wanted to use Cambodians as a reference for the red color, then they would just label that group as "Austro-Asiatic" because that's the language that they speak. And the red color would basically show how much Cambodian every group has. They tried to pick relatively pure groups for the references, but sometimes it's not the case.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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I still don't get how you can equate languages with genetics as many language groupings have diverse phenotypes.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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I still don't get how you can equate languages with genetics as many language groupings have diverse phenotypes.
They're just the name they use to label the colors. So instead of saying "Taiwanese Aborigine" for the light green, they call it "Austronesian"
 
Old 01-23-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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They're just the name they use to label the colors. So instead of saying "Taiwanese Aborigine" for the light green, they call it "Austronesian"
Well it's misleading.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Well it's misleading.
I think they wanted to make it easier to understand, so they use the language family's name to named the DNA group instead of DNA code like "Haplogroup O1 (Y-DNA)a-M119".

The DNA "Haplogroup O1 (Y-DNA)a-M119" is represent to Austronesian's DNA and exist the most in Austronesian population, by the way to say "Haplogroup O1 (Y-DNA)a-M119" don't you think it's kind of a little hard to understand? So the is why they use the word Austronesian instead of "Haplogroup O1 (Y-DNA)a-M119".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peoples
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