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Old 02-21-2013, 11:31 PM
 
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In response to Trimac20's post, I wonder why Japanese (and Korean and Taiwanese) culture is so patriarchal, discouraging women from working in white collar professions, and tend to raise very meek, Confucian women.

Asian Americans, however, are very feminist (do you really think Amy Chua the Tiger Mom could be a lawyer at a prestigious Japanese university and be the head of the household in Japan?) I've also noticed that Asian American adolescents are just as pressured as their male peers to get into Science, Tech, Math, and Engineering (STEM) majors, ALL of which are very male dominated, even in America.

Remember, Amy Chua grew up in the Phillippines as a Chinese traditionalist, while many of the adolescent girls I talk of were born in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, etc.

So why the break-away from traditional gender roles, even with 1st generation immigrants?
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:40 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Why wouldn't Asian Americans integrate into the mainstream society and way of thinking just like other Americans?
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Why wouldn't Asian Americans integrate into the mainstream society and way of thinking just like other Americans?
I find that as well. Usually they out-American the Americans. I mean, they'll have an even greater desire to success, to be a cheerleader, to join a sorority, live in a suburb, spend their teenage years in shopping malls, take advantage of the educational opportunites - i.e. parents are obsessed with their kids living in 'a good school district' regardless if they could actually afford living in that neighborhood or not, etc.

As much as the Asian parents wanted their kids to keep traditional roots. There must have also been some make-up within their parents to 'change countries', which the kids probably picked up on as well, and went full-on within that new environment.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:14 AM
 
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In response to Trimac20's post, I wonder why Japanese (and Korean and Taiwanese) culture is so patriarchal, discouraging women from working in white collar professions, and tend to raise very meek, Confucian women.

Asian Americans, however, are very feminist (do you really think Amy Chua the Tiger Mom could be a lawyer at a prestigious Japanese university and be the head of the household in Japan?) I've also noticed that Asian American adolescents are just as pressured as their male peers to get into Science, Tech, Math, and Engineering (STEM) majors, ALL of which are very male dominated, even in America.

Remember, Amy Chua grew up in the Phillippines as a Chinese traditionalist, while many of the adolescent girls I talk of were born in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, etc.

So why the break-away from traditional gender roles, even with 1st generation immigrants?
Actually, Amy Chua was born and grew up in the US. Her parents were born and grew up in the Philippines though.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I find that as well. Usually they out-American the Americans. I mean, they'll have an even greater desire to success, to be a cheerleader, to join a sorority, live in a suburb, spend their teenage years in shopping malls, take advantage of the educational opportunites - i.e. parents are obsessed with their kids living in 'a good school district' regardless if they could actually afford living in that neighborhood or not, etc.

As much as the Asian parents wanted their kids to keep traditional roots. There must have also been some make-up within their parents to 'change countries', which the kids probably picked up on as well, and went full-on within that new environment.
Definitely. Here first generation immigrants from Asia fully integrate, although some retain more of their culture/identity. I'd say the latter is more willing to hang out more with other Asians, both Australian and non-Australian, and speak an Asian language at home.etc, while the former often just speaks English and has a variety of friends.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:15 PM
 
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So Amy Chua is Filipino? Had no idea. She doesn't claim it
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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So Amy Chua is Filipino? Had no idea. She doesn't claim it
Her parents are Filipino-Chinese. Technically she qualifies for a PH passport.

To go back to the OP.. why shouldn't Asian-Americans adapt? Doesn't make sense why you expect them to act like their parents in the old country.

Do you expect ITalian-Americans, African-Americans to act traditional?
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Old 02-23-2013, 04:08 PM
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let me make a prediction here....EJAY1 will jump in somewhere on this thread!....with pics too!
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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Is it feminist to want to be a lawyer, engineer or techie? I thought it was normal. Oh well.

btw, better opportunities for their kids are one of the main reasons Asians come to N America. And once they're settled in the West, Asian parents don't discriminate between their male and female children re: educational opportunities.
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Charlotte North Carolina
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So Amy Chua is Filipino? Had no idea. She doesn't claim it
she is chinese not filipino

she was born in chicago illinois
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