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In France, some leftist journalists and "opinion makers" who defend the "pro-democracy" demonstrations in HK maintain in the same breath that "it was better when in the PRC Mao was in power". It seems to me presposterous to be at the same time pro democracy and pro Mao. Either they lie, or they are unbelievably ignorant. But one should know that part of the French intelligentsia is made of former Maoists.
HK was still under British rule when Mao was in power
So that does excuse the insult to the intelligence that is mixing up maoism with western democracy? you'll agree with me that these "opinion makers" havent got a clue.
I don't really know French politics so I can't comment on that lol.
But if "HK was better when Mao was in power" is their slogan, then I guess they're just trying to fool those that don't know when HK was handed back to China.
My daughter is in China. She said the news in Shanghai reported that the reason so many people are in Hong Kong was because they all showed up for the National Day celebration. They also shut down Instagram.
In 1997 (the year HK was handed back to China), HK's GDP represented 18% of the People's Republic GDP.
AS of now it represents 3% of China's GDP.
So they can demonstrate all they want, they have no leverage and Beijing can choose to crush them if it wants to.
I doubt the Western Powers would try to enforce sanctions there as they tried to do for Russia over Ukraine (and it backfired miserably).
Beijing is currently on a propaganda and censorship overdrive, censoring all HK related images and search key words, blocking Instagram photo sharing service, and cell signal blackouts in parts of HK. One pro-Beijing TV channel (Phoenix TV) went so far as to label footage of protests as "HK people voicing support for the Central Government election reform program". George Orwell's 1984 is alive and well.
I've attached a few other news and analysis on other aspects of the protest, and the Beijing government's fierce censorship campaign at the moment:
As an ethnic Chinese, I am extremely saddened by the state of affairs in HK and disappointed (though not surprised) with the Central Government's response. My grandfather fought with Mao's Red Army since 1938, in the Sino-Japanese War and the War of Liberation against the Nationalists. The Communist Party that he fought and bled for, the Party that represented the rights and interests of the poor, the oppressed, and all ordinary Chinese, is most definitely not the same Party that is in Beijing today.
In stark contrast to 1949 when the Communist Party represented the most progressive and revolutionary political force in China, the Communist Party today is going great lengths to defend the power and influence of tycoons, corrupt officials, and oligarchic corporate interests, and in some instances sending in police and armed troops to shoot on the same people that embraced them 65 years ago as the liberators.
When I was young, my parents and grandparents always told me that the Party was China's best and only chance to achieve greatness, glory, and national rejuvenation after the century of humiliation. I used to firmly believe in that view, because I saw the Party's glory as China's glory. In recent years, I've finally understand one thing: the Party and China are not the same. The Party has the capability to bring China to greatness and glory, but also the capacity to drag 1.3 billion people to immeasurable suffering (as vividly demonstrated by the Great Famine of 1959 and Cultural Revolution). The Party will rise and fall, but Chinese people, our culture, and our civilization will endure. We have had over 21 major dynastic and regime changes over the last 3000 years, and the current Communist Party will be dealt the same fate, sooner or later.
As an ethnic Chinese, I am extremely saddened by the state of affairs in HK and disappointed (though not surprised) with the Central Government's response. My grandfather fought with Mao's Red Army since 1938, in the Sino-Japanese War and the War of Liberation against the Nationalists. The Communist Party that he fought and bled for, the Party that represented the rights and interests of the poor, the oppressed, and all ordinary Chinese, is most definitely not the same Party that is in Beijing today.
In stark contrast to 1949 when the Communist Party represented the most progressive and revolutionary political force in China, the Communist Party today is going great lengths to defend the power and influence of tycoons, corrupt officials, and oligarchic corporate interests, and in some instances sending in police and armed troops to shoot on the same people that embraced them 65 years ago as the liberators.
When I was young, my parents and grandparents always told me that the Party was China's best and only chance to achieve greatness, glory, and national rejuvenation after the century of humiliation. I used to firmly believe in that view, because I saw the Party's glory as China's glory. In recent years, I've finally understand one thing: the Party and China are not the same. The Party has the capability to bring China to greatness and glory, but also the capacity to drag 1.3 billion people to immeasurable suffering (as vividly demonstrated by the Great Famine of 1959 and Cultural Revolution). The Party will rise and fall, but Chinese people, our culture, and our civilization will endure. We have had over 21 major dynastic and regime changes over the last 3000 years, and the current Communist Party will be dealt the same fate, sooner or later.
I hope sooner, asap, preferably before 2015.
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