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View Poll Results: Should mainland China return to the usage of traditional written characters?
Yes 66 79.52%
No 17 20.48%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-02-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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In cantonese we say 香口膠 for gum, but also use a totally different word for blowjob that doesn't sound anything like that. Perhaps the speaker comes from a place where the local mandarin is influenced by Cantonese...
Just to confirm, the incident I posted happened in graduate school in the US. The female classmate is from the mainland, although not from a native Mandarin-speaking area. I believe from Hunan. She has been in the US for many years before that, so not sure where she picked up 口膠, or maybe she was pulling the other classmate's leg or really flirting with him. The male classmate is from Taiwan. Most of those who could understand Mandarin and overheard the conversation were from Taiwan. You can tell they could not hold their laughter but the guy who grew up in Guangzhou and could speak both Mandarin and Cantonese, did not seem to have any reaction.
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:19 AM
 
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Traditional characters are not "traditional" if we compare them to Oracle bone script.

To my eyes, both traditional characters and simplified characters are extremely simplified
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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No. The primary role of a language is to transfer ideas from one human to another as easy and efficient as possible. One of the advantages of an alphabet-like system is the fact that you can write down a word or a concept that is unfamiliar. For example, if two Chinese farmers meet, can they write down a word that they heard about in common speech but never saw written down? The answer is no, in hieroglyphic systems you can't do that.
I have heard that the average scores that Germans got on German spelling test are extremely low. Does anyone know if it's true?
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:49 AM
 
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일 can mean day, work, or one (Sino-Korean). The word next to it tells you which meaning it is. 일년 doesn't mean one work or one day, it means one year.
Off topic, but il + nyoen = illyoen, you write "n" but pronounce it as "l", is not that scientific writing system to my eyes.

As I know the phenomenon of assimilation, I am not talking phonetically here. Phonetically it makes perfect sense.

By the way, you can use IPA if you want scientific one.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:14 AM
 
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in hieroglyphic (logographic) systems such as traditional Chinese, Egyptian, Sumerian Cuneiform, or Mayan.
Have you learned those languages?

Egyptian hieroglyphs (/ˈhaɪər.ɵɡlɪf/ hyr-o-glif; Egyptian: mdw·w-nṯr, "god's words") were a formal writing system used by the ancient Egyptians that combined logographic and alphabetic elements. You should read the Phonetic reading section.

Most Chinese characters also have alphabetic elements.

青 = qing, can be an alphabetic element

請 is a combination of 言 and 青, 青 represents the pronunciation of qing, so 請 as a whole is read as qing too.

清 = 水+青 = 水+qing = qing
情 = 心+青 = 心+qing = qing
晴 = 日+青 = 日+qing = qing
蜻 = 蟲+青 = 蟲+qing = qing
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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Have you learned those languages?

Egyptian hieroglyphs (/ˈhaɪər.ɵɡlɪf/ hyr-o-glif; Egyptian: mdw·w-nṯr, "god's words") were a formal writing system used by the ancient Egyptians that combined logographic and alphabetic elements. You should read the Phonetic reading section.

Most Chinese characters also have alphabetic elements.

青 = qing, can be an alphabetic element

請 is a combination of 言 and 青, 青 represents the pronunciation of qing, so 請 as a whole is read as qing too.

清 = 水+青 = 水+qing = qing
情 = 心+青 = 心+qing = qing
晴 = 日+青 = 日+qing = qing
蜻 = 蟲+青 = 蟲+qing = qing
Off topic, btu which nationality are you?
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I am completely clueless on this (and many other things) but voted "No" because I always root for the underdog.
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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It is stupid to ask a bunch of foreigners what written language China should use.

I should post a poll asking "should Americans learn to speak British English?" and see how they respond. :P
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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It is stupid to ask a bunch of foreigners what written language China should use.

I should post a poll asking "should Americans learn to speak British English?" and see how they respond. :P
Go for it. No one would care.

Why do you get butthurt so easily when it comes to foreigners discussing China?
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:36 PM
 
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Off topic, btu which nationality are you?
I am a native Japanese. No relatives of mine can speak Chinese
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