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Old 04-27-2015, 10:52 PM
 
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Ok, so when India took Goa, it's maintaining terr. integrity. But when China under Mao took back Tibet (which was part of China since the reign of Kangxi during the early Qing), it's called an "invasion". Whatever.
Well, Xizang is part of China, no ifs, ands, or buts. I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me at this point, so no further comment.

 
Old 04-28-2015, 02:22 AM
 
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ok, comments, I see.

Then, let me rephrase: who the f8ck cares how the EU/US will comment if Nepal decides voluntarily to join another country (India or/and China).

Every single country can comment on anything. That's their right.

Or will they stop at "commenting", after telling others what to do for centuries? Imagine, just very hypothetically, Taiwan or Singapore decided to join China tomorrow, do you think the US will just comment and makes noattempts to interfere and sabotage the deal?

In your last sentence you just admitted that you would expect the U.S. to give substantial response to such state merger, then why the hell were you going all berserk on me when I originally said that there would be no adverse comments from the US and the EU?

Besides, A state merger is definitely an international matter and not just a domestic matter. In the event that there is no duress on the country with a weaker position suspected, it will be unnecessary for a vote in the UN general assembly, and of course they don't know. But nevertheless there will be changes to the composition in many institutional organisations and it will also affect the foreign and tariff policies of many bilateral relations. You are just being extremely arbitrary to prohibit any county giving a response.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 02:48 AM
 
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Someday, some Nepalis are going to be searching for who knows what topic, find this in their 'search engine', and say WTF?

This is kind of like a "Hey, Mexico isn't governing so good, who should absorb it, Canada, USA, or Brazil? Would any of them even take it?" Anyone with half brain would read that and say WTF?? WTF..F..F!

 
Old 04-28-2015, 02:51 AM
 
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Wow, the PRC nationalists are just raging on here.
You know, just because you don't always hate on China, like many here do as a knee jerk reaction, doesn't make you a "nationalist" of any kind. It might actually mean that you use your head a bit more often, or that you have a different perspective.

Of course, most simpletons see the world as either "my way or no way".
 
Old 04-28-2015, 09:20 AM
 
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Someday, some Nepalis are going to be searching for who knows what topic, find this in their 'search engine', and say WTF?

This is kind of like a "Hey, Mexico isn't governing so good, who should absorb it, Canada, USA, or Brazil? Would any of them even take it?" Anyone with half brain would read that and say WTF?? WTF..F..F!

How can you compare Mexico with Nepal? Mexico is a major player in the world as an OECD and G20 member. Nepal is clearly a failed state and does not serve much other than having the Himalayas and being a buffer state between its two neighbours.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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How can you compare Mexico with Nepal? Mexico is a major player in the world as an OECD and G20 member. Nepal is clearly a failed state and does not serve much other than having the Himalayas and being a buffer state between its two neighbours.
Have you been to Nepal? Are not aware that it is a society, a people, a culture...one that is completely different from either India or China?

Where do you stand on Tibet? Are you one of those people who think that Tibet shouldn't have it's own rights? That the Dalai Lama should have fled, and that it's religion and temples should have been replaced? Do you think that the Tibetan language SHOULD be replaced by Chinese languages, and the people replaced by Chinese people, as the Tibetan people flee?

If you think Tibet should have been left alone, and than Nepal should be given to another power, another country....that would be very interesting indeed.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Have you been to Nepal? Are not aware that it is a society, a people, a culture...one that is completely different from either India or China?

Where do you stand on Tibet? Are you one of those people who think that Tibet shouldn't have it's own rights? That the Dalai Lama should have fled, and that it's religion and temples should have been replaced? Do you think that the Tibetan language SHOULD be replaced by Chinese languages, and the people replaced by Chinese people, as the Tibetan people flee?

If you think Tibet should have been left alone, and than Nepal should be given to another power, another country....that would be very interesting indeed.
Tibet was, is, and will be an integral part of China.
Culturally, Nepal is closer to India, but either side will be dissastified if the other side gets to annex it completely, so a half-half split is happy for every one.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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Tibet was, is, and will be an integral part of China.
Culturally, Nepal is closer to India, but either side will be dissastified if the other side gets to annex it completely, so a half-half split is happy for every one.
WOW! Okay...

If you have that strong of a disregard for people, places, cultures, religions, etc...

May God help us all, if you ever study Politics and decide to run for office. Wow.

It's not often you hear that opinion about Tibet, unless a person is Han Chinese perhaps.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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WOW! Okay...

If you have that strong of a disregard for people, places, cultures, religions, etc...

May God help us all, if you ever study Politics and decide to run for office. Wow.

It's not often you hear that opinion about Tibet, unless a person is Han Chinese perhaps.
The CCP has done a lot more for Xizang than the feudal Dalai Lama ever did, Before the CCP came to reclaim former territory, Xizang was a feudal society where the population was impoverished and ruled by nobility who owned most of the wealth. Let's not also forget that Xizang is an integral part of the Chinese nation, and has been for much of the 1st millennium. The Dalai Lama is a puppet of the West to bring down the Beijing government. Anyway, regarding Nepal, Nepal is a sovereign nation that shouldn't be annexed, partitioned, etc.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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WOW! Okay...

If you have that strong of a disregard for people, places, cultures, religions, etc...

May God help us all, if you ever study Politics and decide to run for office. Wow.

It's not often you hear that opinion about Tibet, unless a person is Han Chinese perhaps.
exactly...just look at this thread. the ironic part is that the PRC naitonalists on this thread live in western countries and enjoy the freedoms they lack on the mainland...not to mention the air pollution.
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