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Old 05-16-2019, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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i don’t know much about IELTS, but PTE (entirely done on computer) has been giving native speakers a lot of trouble, though that largely depends on the type of score an institution or government requests.

In Australia, immigration has recently increased entry level requirements (as in minimum score) for those applying for permanent residence.

If you ask me, I find these exams to be flat out ridiculous. Anyone who has studied in an English institute or can demonstrate that they have conducted activities in English should be exempt from these type of exams. The fact that people end up spending thousands on them, makes them the equivalent of government sponsored scams.

What institutions and governments fail to realise, is that this is a poor way of helping people improve their language skills.
I heard that even native English speakers are not exempt from the requirement.

Australia government probably has swindled a lot of money from PTE and IELTS test takers.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Is the IELTS test administered in oral or written form? In writing, it wouldn't challenge many people, but I doubt if the people who wrote questions could handle them if they were sprung on them at a mall.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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I heard that even native English speakers are not exempt from the requirement.

Australia government probably has swindled a lot of money from PTE and IELTS test takers.
They’re not exempt. I had to do one in order to get a PR in Australia.
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Is the IELTS test administered in oral or written form? In writing, it wouldn't challenge many people, but I doubt if the people who wrote questions could handle them if they were sprung on them at a mall.
Both. A large part of it is done in written form, but there’s a section where the candidate needs to speak in front of an assessor.

Unlike the PTE, nothing is conducted in front of a computer.
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:04 AM
 
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What a stupid interview. No, you don't assess non-native's English by asking them "Where are you from?". That is the kind of question you ask 10 year old kids. And the questions are from the written exam, where they are given time to think about what to answer.

I have taken the IELTS, didn't practice at all and still scored much higher than university requirement. It's not difficult if you can speak English, but if you can't and only managed to pass your English class through memorization then it will be difficult. The reason they even have IELTS requirements is because some people get good grades in their local English class, but in reality can't even carry a basic conversation.
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Old 08-18-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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What a stupid interview. No, you don't assess non-native's English by asking them "Where are you from?". That is the kind of question you ask 10 year old kids. And the questions are from the written exam, where they are given time to think about what to answer.

I have taken the IELTS, didn't practice at all and still scored much higher than university requirement. It's not difficult if you can speak English, but if you can't and only managed to pass your English class through memorization then it will be difficult. The reason they even have IELTS requirements is because some people get good grades in their local English class, but in reality can't even carry a basic conversation.
Of course it was easy for you to score high marks. You are Scandinavian. Scandinavians all score high marks in these tests because Scandinavian languages are very similar to English.

But still IELTS is very easy lol. I took it twice and I got near perfect marks both times.
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