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Old 04-08-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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YOUR people should stay but you leave. What a nice guy you are.
I stay here for my company, i am not immigrant
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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I stay here for my company, i am not immigrant
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I hope I could move to US, Canada or Australia
Do you know what you wrote??
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:13 AM
 
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I don't know what's wrong with just letting a country shrink in population vs. destroying the native culture and native ethnicities with mass immigration. If the population shrinks, yes there will be economic consequences. But on the other hand, there will be less traffic, more open space and parks, less crowds, less density, better for environment, lower house prices, etc.... Just try to use technology to replace people when population shrinks. It's the same with European countries, instead if destroying their native cultures and native ethnicity with mass immigration from the Middle East and Africa, they should think about just letting their population and economies just shrink. It would be a shame to see these old cultures get watered down and overrun with mass immigration.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:25 AM
 
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I don't know what's wrong with just letting a country shrink in population vs. destroying the native culture and native ethnicities with mass immigration. If the population shrinks, yes there will be economic consequences. But on the other hand, there will be less traffic, more open space and parks, less crowds, less density, better for environment, lower house prices, etc.... Just try to use technology to replace people when population shrinks. It's the same with European countries, instead if destroying their native cultures and native ethnicity with mass immigration from the Middle East and Africa, they should think about just letting their population and economies just shrink. It would be a shame to see these old cultures get watered down and overrun with mass immigration.
I think it's more than just a choice. When your pop shrink, what this means is that the young folks are dwindling due to lower birth rate, and given medical advances, the older pop increases and so you have a pop pyramid where the number of young working folks who put taxes into the system is getting smaller, while the older pop who is using tax money for retirement and medical support is getting bigger. This means that the young ones are less numerous and have increasing tax burden. If this is the case, how can they also save for a house, and raise their kids? This is a vicious cycle that will end in crisis. So you do need more young people to support the growing old people. It's more complicated than just preserving your culture and becoming a smaller population. This is also why the Chinese are beginning to worry about the same issue. They may have a huge population, but projection shows that their working younger pop will decline as their older folks will rise and demand more support, which the younger ones will find increasingly difficult to do.

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Old 04-11-2016, 06:02 AM
 
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I think it's more than just a choice. When your pop shrink, what this means is that the young folks are dwindling due to lower birth rate, and given medical advances, the older pop increases and so you have a pop pyramid where the number of young working folks who put taxes into the system is getting smaller, while the older pop who is using tax money for retirement and medical support is getting bigger. This means that the young ones are less numerous and have increasing tax burden. If this is the case, how can they also save for a house, and raise their kids? This is a vicious cycle that will end in crisis. So you do need more young people to support the growing old people. It's more complicated than just preserving your culture and becoming a smaller population. This is also why the Chinese are beginning to worry about the same issue. They may have a huge population, but projection shows that their working younger pop will decline as their older folks will rise and demand more support, which the younger ones will find increasingly difficult to do.
In Australia we have a somewhat sustainable population despite an greying population via immigration. Housing affordability is also an issue....it's because of greed - real estate is generally old money with the Chinese and nouveau rich propping it up.

I think the world is moving towards a more transient lifestyle...
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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In Australia we have a somewhat sustainable population despite an greying population via immigration. Housing affordability is also an issue....it's because of greed - real estate is generally old money with the Chinese and nouveau rich propping it up.

I think the world is moving towards a more transient lifestyle...
Right. All the rich Chinese who don't feel safe living and buying in their own country, and are flooding Australia with their money....a lot of that money is from corruption.
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Old 07-29-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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Nice to see a country that takes pride in maintaining it's culture and values

Europe and the US could learn a thing or two
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Nice to see a country that takes pride in maintaining it's culture and values

Europe and the US could learn a thing or two
Some people might call that pride xenophobia. Japan is not known for its outward looking attitude. It has always been very insular because it was always a tiny set of island states now combined into one country. They've never really had a long experience with being an empire (their brief modern empire leading to its collapse in WWII is too brief to bring any sort of cultural influence). They do not have an open and tolerant mind.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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Yanagisawa, did you mean NHI (National Health Insurance) in your previous post about a Chinese father treated in Japan?
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Japan should offer married Japanese couples 10 million yen per baby and give mothers extended paid maternity leave as an incentive to procreate. They're trying all of these different stimulus and negative interest bond black magic which is not working. What could be more stimulative than more people and more money in their hands?
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