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Old 08-01-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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This is rather a distribution/allocating problem, because nowadays productivity is high enough to produce enough output for everyone. It is just that the factors labor and capital have to be rebalanced, in cases where the population is growing, stable or shrinking. The case of Japan is extreme though, but same for S. Korea.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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Japan is already the easiest country to legally immigrate to, and there are already plenty of Chinese residing in Japan.

I personally know a few naturalized Japanese citizens born in China. Back to the days when South Korea was still a developing country, there was a significant amount of Koreans immigrating to Japan too, but not anymore.

Japan is definitely more friendly to legal immigrants than any other industrialized country. However, the language barrier and cultural difference are holding people back from moving there.
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Old 08-01-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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The principal incentive for migration is economics + political stability.

South Korea is quite politically stable and their people are well off in average. So why will they emigrate to Japan en masse?
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Old 08-01-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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If fellow posters have watched the decade old Japanese TV show "Soko Ga Siritai", one episode focused on the Korean immigrants in Japan.

It talks about the systematic discrimination against Korean immigrants, even though they are born in Japan. For example, unless they change their Korean name to Japanese name, it is hard for them to get a decent job in Japan.
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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It works as long as the cultures are not completely opposite to each other.
True, true my bad.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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I dont think there are enough Koreans or Chinese interested in settling, integrating into and reproducing in Japan to make it worth considering, regardless. It's easier for them to make a fruitful life in their own home culture than in Japan these days.
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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Basically all the more developed Asian societies, i.e. Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea, face the same problem as Japan faces -- population decline.

South Korea population will peak in 2035 and then declines quite rapidly.

But South Korea and Japan face a unique problem. Their society is monolithic and their population is homogeneous. They tend not to accept foreigners assimilated into their society.

To some extent, Korea is even more rigid than Japan.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Basically all the more developed Asian societies, i.e. Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea, face the same problem as Japan faces -- population decline.

South Korea population will peak in 2035 and then declines quite rapidly.
That's what you get when you only have ****e children policy and crap education.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Other places are already better than Japan, Japan is not a paradise.
Earthquakes are unheard of in Korea and occur much less in China.
Japan is decling while Korea and China are rising.


Data released by the Japanese Health and Welfare Ministry in July 2016 showed that Hong Kong people have the longest life expectancy in the world.
Hong Kong people have the longest life expectancy in the world | Coconuts Hong Kong


Hong Kong women and men enjoy world


2015 Human Development Report
12 Hong Kong 0.910
17 South Korea 0.898
19 Macau 0.892
20 Japan 0.891


Number of Gold medals in 2012 Olympics Games
South Korea 13
Japan 7


Number of Gold medals and Total number of medals in 2014 Asian Games
South Korea 79 and 228
Japan 47 and 201
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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No, the 4 Asian dragons do not have a population decline problem as there are people moving in from other places. But they and Japan have low birth rates.


Take Hong Kong for example, a lot of people moving in include children born outside of HK to a HK parent, spouses of a HK person, legal immigrants with no relative in HK, illegal immigrants etc. For Singapore and HK, they are cities with a tradition of immigrants arriving with large numbers of residents who were not born there.


In South Korea and Taiwan, there are still some immigrants, mainly from China and Southeast Asia.


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Basically all the more developed Asian societies, i.e. Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea, face the same problem as Japan faces -- population decline.

South Korea population will peak in 2035 and then declines quite rapidly.

But South Korea and Japan face a unique problem. Their society is monolithic and their population is homogeneous. They tend not to accept foreigners assimilated into their society.

To some extent, Korea is even more rigid than Japan.

Honestly, most Chinese and Koreans do not like the Japanese and most Japanese do not like the Chinese and Koreans. Settle in a country where the people do not like you? And China and South Korea are doing well and improving. Chinese and South Koreans have better future than the Japanese. HK and Macau are already better than Japan.
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I dont think there are enough Koreans or Chinese interested in settling, integrating into and reproducing in Japan to make it worth considering, regardless. It's easier for them to make a fruitful life in their own home culture than in Japan these days.
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